Italians War Criminals of WW2

[Bereta_Eder]

Im not banned!

And what beating?

The trolls only embarassed themselves with their foam at the mouth And they got it in the ass. Again.

[Bereta_Eder]

You just dont know what to reply and you want to make it appear like grandiose belevolance me thinks. fact is you cant think of ****!

[Datajack Franit]

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[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Giovanni Wine

About the ones which were captured by English and Americans probably Datajack explanation is the best one, the Americans did not want to completely destoy relationship with the right-wingers Italian and letting Italy fall into Communism by executing people like Graziani or charging Badoglio.

Saluti

Actually, when the Italians deposed Mussolini didn't they hand the government over to Badoglio? Who was in charge of the Italian units that went over to the allied side? If Badgolio and Graziani went over to the allied side before the war's end they certainly would have been spared from war crimes trials because the allies wouldn't have wanted to try an allied officer.

[Bereta_Eder]

I wouldn't find it strange to believe though if they were put on hold in order to counter communist rebels.

Not only in Italy but in many other countries as well.

It wouldn't be the first time war criminals are "kept" for other uses.

I'm sure there is a Pandora's Box waiting to be opened about that one and probably already has, in books etc.

And not only "soldiers" criminals but also "scientists" etc who were "spared" in order to offer their "services" against the left wing.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by paiktis22
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And not only "soldiers" criminals but also "scientists" etc who were "spared" in order to offer their "services" against the left wing.

You mean like me mein fuhrer?

[Az]

The trolls only embarassed themselves with their foam at the mouth

funny, it was you who keeps crying "mummy, the trolls ganged on me "

[Bereta_Eder]

Because they cant deal with me any other way the poor sods


Edit: I dont know Doc, how's your wheelchair oiled these days?

[Giovanni Wine]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Actually, when the Italians deposed Mussolini didn't they hand the government over to Badoglio? Who was in charge of the Italian units that went over to the allied side? If Badgolio and Graziani went over to the allied side before the war's end they certainly would have been spared from war crimes trials because the allies wouldn't have wanted to try an allied officer.

Yup Badoglio was ordered by the King to form a new government in the liberated parts of Italy.

Later on Badoglio withdraw from his position and the "Free Government of Rome" was formed in the south, which was mainly composed by Socialist, Communist or Christian Democrats.

Although the southern military stayed loyal only to Badoglio.

Graziani instead went in the north, and was the military leader of the Italian Social Repubblic of Salò (basically this was a puppet state of the Germans lead by Mussolini).

On the end of the war Mussolini betrayed Graziani and tried to escape in Germany, Graziani instead waited for the arrival of the Allied and surrended his armies to them.

Even if now Badoglio is remembered as a hero of the anti-fascism, (there is even a town called after him), he still had commited horrible crimes in Ethiopia, and should have been charged for them.

Graziani was arrested by the Americans, but got away with very little punishment, despite his many crimes in Lybia.

Saluti

[Chris 62]

The war crimes tribunal were not empowered to act on COLONIAL ERA warcrimes.

Only the second world war was at issue, so acts committed in Ethiopia (circa 1936) and the Spanish civil war wern't covered.

Italy had an excellent reputation in Yugoslavia, I can't recall any excesses by Italian forces there, nor in Russia.

[Giovanni Wine]

Originally posted by Chris 62
The war crimes tribunal were not empowered to act on COLONIAL ERA warcrimes.

Uhmmm.... I guess that would explain it

Saluti

[TCO]

Originally posted by paiktis22
*takes out lighter for the EU application of Croatia*

NOOOOO! I want to hang with those hawties. Oh. Just forgot I'm excluded from the EU. Ok, Croatia, you and Turkey will just have to join NAFTA! We can change the A to Atlantic.

[TCO]

Hey Italian guy, you know what I like. Comrade Don Camillo. That is who I like.

[Wernazuma III]

Well, just my own 5 cents:
The vast majority of German war crimes were handled in the Nuremberg processes. Italy with its partial self-liberation (others would call it opportunism, but well) was not given the same treatment after the war. The allies rather treated them with care. Like I said, the German war crimes were treated concentrated at one occasion. Back then, it was not, like today, that everyone at every instance lanced a war crime trial. Winners judged over the losers and Italy was given milder treatment - period.
Accordingly, in Italy you (even less than us in Austria, and now THAT means something) never had "Unfascization" (I don't know how the real word goes). Your former fascists joined the Democrata Christiana or even the Communists without facing their own past. Imagine a party in Austria/Germany to call themselves "Neonazi-party" or hordes of people openly worship Hitler at his grave (if he had one).

[TCO]

There were too many Germans who went free. Need to punish them harder. The only thing they understand is a fist in the face.