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There are many of THOSE people out in the world. Yes?
Yes. Of course. And they're wrong to do it. But what's your point?
It doesn't mean ALL Arabs or Muslims or immigrants or whatever hate America. Alot of Canadians hate America, too, but that doesn't mean I hate America. Let's not paint in such broad strokes.
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Originally posted by cinch
It doesn't mean ALL Arabs or Muslims ... hate America.
May Allah bless those Uzbeks.
The government commits evil in your name. If you don't actively oppose it, then you consent to it.
I'll let this one pass. It's too easy.
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I can name what race and what country those that hyjacked those planes to kill Americans came from.
They came from multiple countries. Most came from either Saudi Arabia or Egypt, two Arab nations America considers friends.
You don't see the American government telling us the fastes way to heaven is to kill a muslim!!!!
They don't have to tell you that. They have the power to do it without your help.
Now........you tell me....why should I not be afraid of THOSE countries and races?
You are far more likely to be robbed and murdered by an American than you are to be killed in a terrorist attack. So why fear Arabs more than Americans?
I am not the one killing in the name of GOD!!!!!!!
No, you aren't. Neither are a lot of good, honest, hard-working Muslims around the world.
I'm not defending the terrorists here... I'm just saying that the acts of Al-Qaeda and whoever, shouldn't mean that we cover the whole populace of the Middle East with the blanket-label "terrorist" or "evil" or "hateful".
And we certainly shouldn't take out our frustrations on Arab immigrants looking for a better life in America. That's what the whole topic of this thread was, back in the beginning, right?
"I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" -Frank Zappa
"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice."- Thomas Paine
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." -Bob Dylan
I'm not defending the terrorists here... I'm just saying that the acts of Al-Qaeda and whoever, shouldn't mean that we cover the whole populace of the Middle East with the blanket-label "terrorist" or "evil" or "hateful".
Think about it
If the terrorist come from the Middle East does'nt it make sence to keep an eye on those that come from the Middel East?
The terroist are muslims also, do I have to explain why muslims are watched closely also?
I am sorry that a few bad apples have ruined it all for those from the Middel East but they don't seem to be denying it too much.
Not many "we like America" rallies going on in the Middel east!!!!
Most terrorist acts in the US are committed by striaght, white, male, Christians (of a sort). Should we be watched also?
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
If the terrorist come from the Middle East does'nt it make sence to keep an eye on those that come from the Middel East?
No more than you keep an eye on everyone else, because everyone is conceivably capable of hurting you. Like I said, you have more to fear from domestic violence than international terrorism.
White males are mainly the perpetrators of corporate crime in America. Does that mean we should keep an eye on only *white* corporate executives?
It is also really hard to have sypathy with Arab Palistenias when you see them celebrating in the streets when those planes were used as weapons.
Was the entire population of Palestine dancing in the streets? No? I saw those pictures, too. How many people were actually shown dancing in the video? About 20, tops? How is that representative of the entire population??
Again, I believe the whole point of this thread was whether or not illegal Arab immigrants should be treated with dignity and respect, even if they technically have no rights written on paper for them in the constitution. And I still say that there is no reason why they shouldn't be.
Not many "we like America" rallies going on in the Middel east!!!!
Not many "we like the Middle East" rallies going on in America!
One last thing: You say that Middle Easterners hate America for no reason, but then you go on to say that they have no rights and cannot be trusted. Perhaps those American beliefs could contribute to their misguided anger?
"I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" -Frank Zappa
"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice."- Thomas Paine
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." -Bob Dylan
Ok docfeelgood if american is in danger in outside world, then I guess it's fair to say I can get killed in the US because I'm white .
but I don't see big problems with this registering thing, except if its used wrong and to apprehend lots of good immigrants with no problems.
In da butt.
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You say that Middle Easterners hate America for no reason, but then you go on to say that they have no rights and cannot be trusted. Perhaps those American beliefs could contribute to their misguided anger?
Please don't put words in my mouth
I never said any of that.
but I don't see big problems with this registering thing, except if its used wrong and to apprehend lots of good immigrants with no problems.
Nether do I.
If I see that it is being abused I will be one of the first to protest in the streets.
Ok docfeelgood if american is in danger in outside world, then I guess it's fair to say I can get killed in the US because I'm white .
No.
It would be fair to say you could get killed because you are an American.
Last edited by Docfeelgood; January 13, 2003, 07:54.
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