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    Westerners plan to be human shields in Iraq in case of a war. The news article talks about a 21 year old Brit. There is also a picture of a 5-year old British kid greeting Saddam in Iraq. The boy is supposedly also a human shield. Is this abusing+++ kids?

    I think an American is behind this. I heard the web adress on the radio today, but don't remember the exact name. Uk service something.

    The American got 200 other Americans with him and it seems like Brits will join.

    Is this despicable? Will it prevent an eventual war?

    PS If someone else posted this I am sorry. Didn't see anything on the 1st page.

  • #2
    BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service

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    • #3
      Genius idea, because we all know cruise missiles take the time to check passports and nation of origin before killing you......
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      • #4
        Re: Westerners as human shields in Iraq

        Originally posted by Lars-E
        The American got 200 other Americans with him and it seems like Brits will join.
        Where ever they are should be the first targets hit if possible. If they can get some French to join in as well, so much the better.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #5
          And then there's also this...

          Greece Launches EU Peace Mission on Iraq
          Wed Jan 8, 4:31 PM ET Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!


          By Brian Williams and Nadim Ladki

          ATHENS/BAGHDAD (Reuters) - European Union (news - web sites) president Greece said on Wednesday it would lead an EU mission to Arab states in a bid to avert war in Iraq, as Washington and London beefed up firepower in the Gulf region.


          Reuters Photo


          AP Photo
          Slideshow: Iraq and Saddam Hussein

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          (Reuters Video)



          U.N. arms inspectors are expected to report on Thursday that Iraq has still failed to answer key questions, providing possible fresh ammunition for Washington's case for war.


          The Greek announcement surprised other EU members whose attitudes to attacking Iraq vary widely, ranging from staunch British support for U.S. hard-line policy on Baghdad to Germany's refusal to get involved in combat.


          The trip was timed to start around late January when the U.N. Security Council holds a meeting on Iraq that is increasingly seen as possible showdown time for war.


          There was no immediate response to the Greek initiative in Washington but in London a Foreign Office official said any effort to get Iraq to honor U.N. resolutions was welcome.


          "On the trip we want to see if we can have a positive development on Iraq," Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou told Reuters TV, adding he would urge Arab nations to play a bigger role in mediating between the United States and Iraq.


          "As EU president we have decided we cannot just wait for things to happen," a close Papandreou aide told Reuters.


          A Foreign Ministry official said the mission was likely to be in late January or early February and would take in Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iran, Egypt and Saudi Arabia as well as meetings with Palestinian and Israeli officials.


          It was unclear whether the planned timing of the EU mission suggested Athens had information that Washington would avoid military action against Baghdad before then.


          ALL EYES ON U.N. REPORT


          U.N. experts said on the eve of the report to the United Nations (news - web sites) Security Council that Iraq had not cleared up issues about biological and chemical programs, including 6,000 missing poison gas bombs.


          Hans Blix, in charge of chemical, biological and ballistic arms inspections, and International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohamed ElBaradei have made clear their teams have not been in Iraq long enough to uncover any weapons of mass destruction.


          Washington and London say they have intelligence Iraq has such weapons and have threatened war unless Iraq comes clean. Iraq denies having any nuclear, biological or chemical arms.


          A fuller report by Blix and ElBaradei on January 27 is widely seen as a possible trigger for war if Iraq fails to satisfy the weapons inspectors. But diplomats say that report may not include any dramatic disclosures either.


          The United States and Britain have already said there are holes in Iraq's arms declaration to the United Nations in December, and Washington has gone further in saying the gaps put Baghdad in material breach of U.N. resolutions.


          Other countries, especially in the Muslim world, have opposed any military action unless hard evidence emerges that Iraq has banned weapons.


          SADDAM STILL DEFIANT


          Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) fired another defiant salvo of words at Washington on Wednesday.

          The United States had superiority in the air but in face-to-face fighting the American GI's 21st-century kit would count for nothing, he said.

          Amid tight Iraqi food rations however, supplying the troops with food could be a real concern, Saddam was quoted as saying by Iraqi television.

          "It is enough to have grenades, launchers, a loaf of bread, a drink of water and a rifle. Then, counting on God, Iraq will be safe...unless the fighter says he has no bread or no water to drink," Saddam said.

          U.S. Army General Tommy Franks, who would lead any American war against Iraq, briefed President Bush (news - web sites) and his national security team on Wednesday as the U.S. and British military build-up in the Gulf region gathered pace.

          The Pentagon (news - web sites) is pouring warplanes, ships and thousands of troops into the region. It plans to double the 60,000 already there and is sending war planners to a base in Qatar.

          U.N. inspectors, backed by a tough Security Council resolution passed in November, searched at least eight sites in Iraq on Wednesday, upping the tempo of their inspections.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Starchild
            Genius idea, because we all know cruise missiles take the time to check passports and nation of origin before killing you......
            I never knew that.

            But I guess the dummies doing this are at least going to remove their genes from the pool.
            Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks...

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            • #7
              That's not the first time something like this is being planned and done BTW.

              When NATO bombed targets in Serbia, human shields were formed on bridges etc all wearing a t-shirt with a target drawn on it.


              The media were filming the whole thing.

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              • #8
                Using children. Yepper. Saddam backers.
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                • #9
                  Well they are not Saddam backers, but merely to fundamentalist pacifists... now all they should do instead is go around and make political campaigns for some more peace loving MP's (or for better sentors and congressmen) and such, however a holiday in Iraq is easier. One thing is for sure, they'll be sorry after the first missile lands for those who stay alive and injured.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
                    One thing is for sure, they'll be sorry after the first missile lands for those who stay alive and injured.
                    That's why the building they are serving as a shield for should be the first to be hit.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #11
                      Would Bush kill Americans?

                      He would be persona non grata politically in the USA, if he did that.

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                      • #12
                        If they act like more American Taliban, guess what? You're wrong.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          John Walker got off "easy".

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                          • #14
                            Yes, he did.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #15
                              well if he wants to go out there and get himself killed, then it's his own problem. involing children is and would be utterly disgusting though.
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