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  • #46
    I want to agree with Stew somewhat (for the US at least)

    not everything he said, but that Culture effects the youth, and that blacks (in the US at least) have different cultural heroes than whites

    I mean whites are bombarded from the media with many role models (from Albert Einstien to Babe Ruth) in a variety of areas while african americans seem to only be bombarded with musicians and sports people (And in reality, few can be those thigns)

    the solution I think is for the media to be responsible and show african americans in other fields (like Prof Gates who is big in physics at Maryland) achieving

    Jon Miller
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    • #47
      Maybe I'm in the minority, but in relation to Jon's post, I'd have to say that I don't look at someone's ethnicity when I consider their status as a role model. I'm of Serbian ethnicity, and white, but don't restrict my role models to those factors. I think it's important to teach young people that a role model doesn't have to be someone of the same ethnicity or color or sex as you.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #48
        I don't either (but maybe I have had it ingrained in me since I was young and would think differently if I was african american)

        but I am just concerned that this is a problem

        Jon Miller
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        • #49
          Well said Sava
          I have discovered that China and Spain are really one and the same country, and it's only ignorance that leads people to believe they are two seperate nations. If you don't belive me try writing 'Spain' and you'll end up writing 'China'."
          Gogol, Diary of a Madman

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          • #50
            Of course, England was so peaceful before rap music came along.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #51
              Elevensies and afternoon tea.

              England was all cucumber sandwiches and Earl Grey tea on the croquet lawn before the arrival of rap.
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #52
                The reason kids get into drug running has nothing to do with gangsta culture. It has everything to do with easy money.

                I think the rise in gun crime is directly related to the War on Drugs. The drug prohibition has generated huge revenues for gangs to wage their turf wars in order to protect their consumer base and distribution networks. e.g. In Baltimore, USA recently, a woman filed a complaint against neighborhood drug selling gangsters. The police responded by arresting some people. The gangs retaliated by killing the woman and burning her house down. This collateral damage from the drug war is causing untold amounts of damage to our communities.
                "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by paiktis22
                  Most of the Greek women are beautiful silly Orange.
                  I know, and I can't wait to meet 'em this summer!

                  And unlike you Ive been out to a dozen other countries
                  Believe me, in all sincerity, I am truly envious
                  "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                  You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                  "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                  • #54
                    the politicians who spout on this crap are just after column inches, the US had the same thing in the mid 90's with NWA, deathrow records etc..that reaction is now looked on as being completely over the top by most sensible people (ie civilization and society didn't crumble because some guy was grabbing his crotch and saying '**** tha police')

                    i can't believe anyone who isn't either over 50, or has a political outlook somewhere to the right of Mussolini, can do anything but laugh at this bandwagon-jumping sensationalism

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                    • #55
                      they did a great job of highlighting that in Jay and Silent Bob
                      "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                      You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                      "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                      • #56
                        Actually, sociologically speaking, Boddingtons isn't completely speaking out of his arse. Using professional sociological terms, minority does not refer to a group that comprises a numerical minority of the population, but one of the groups that does not hold the most power in society.
                        Last edited by Shi Huangdi; January 7, 2003, 18:00.
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                        "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                        • #57
                          ...and white males DON'T hold the most power in the UK? ;O)

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                          • #58
                            Well, it seems Spink is making the argument that minorities hold more power because the fear of being branded a racist forces the powerful classes to represent the interests of numerical minorities above the interests of the population in the numerical majority.
                            "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                            "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                            • #59
                              i understood what he was saying, it's an opinion thats quite popular in the right wing gutterpress (richard littlejohn springs to mind), i just think it's an easy cop out to use it to explain everything from the rise in income tax to the increase in teenage pregnancies!
                              Last edited by reds4ever; January 7, 2003, 18:23.

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                              • #60
                                In Wilmington, DE, there is a shooting about once or twice a week over who controls the drug turf. There was a child accidentally killed in a barber shop shooting last year. This shooting was directly related to gangs protecting and enforcing their drug territory. Almost all of the recent shootings have been due to the drug war; the official drug war and the gangsters perpetrating their own drug war for control of the drug trade.
                                "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                                —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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