Weed triggers depression...

[Graag]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Please read the article more carefully. The researchers studied groups of young people, some who smoked frequently and some who did not, over a period of time and found that during this period of time those who smoked heavily were at greater risk of developing depression. It would be standard technique to try to match the 2 groups on relevant characteristics, and to exclude anyone who was already depressed. We don't know that for certain of course because we're not reading the scientific article.

What would make more sense is to give pot to young people who don't smoke it, then see if they are more depressed than a control group.

[orange]

good point Graag, but I don't think the government would go along with that

[Graag]

*volunteers*

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by orange
good point Graag, but I don't think the government would go along with that

Probably not, but could look at individual case studies and see how many of these people who became depressed were happy before they smoked pot, and how many only became depressed after smoking pot. Even still though the research could be flawed because smoking pot be a symptom of other effects in their life causing depression.

[FrostyBoy]

Why do you take drugs chegitz guevara?

Drugs (and weed) do cause problems, I see it many times, which is why I don't take it. I'm fine with people doing whatever they want with their bodies. But what I don't want to happen is see the next generation of kids and adults taking drugs, or thinking that it's okay; because it's NOT okay. The problem is education; people just don't understand, they don't have the knowledge that would make them see why they should not take it.

I remember back in school, they taught us the advantages and disadvantages of drugs (all types), which I feel was the best way to go about it, this way you give the students the ability to make the right choice for themself. Of course the advantages far out weighed the disadvantages, and that was why most students don't take drugs (not even legal ones in many cases). The ones that did take drugs afterwards, seemed to have a problem with their behaviour before they were even taught about it.

I guarantee all of you, if none of you ever heard of any illegal drugs, you would be fine. Drugs are useless, unless you want to make your life more difficult. And don't tell me I am wrong until you have done the research - which I have already done.

[DanS]

"Pick up any standard medical textbook."

Since when were standard medical textbooks welcome in a courtroom?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sn00py
Why do you take drugs chegitz guevara?

They're fun, or at least they were at one time. I don't do them so much now because they aren't as much fun as they used to be. I still drink, and I'd like to try X, but everything else is falling by the wayside.

Dr. S, by prohibition I meant marijuana prohibition, which began in 1937.

The statment, "The mob, friends of the CIA, the CIA itself" is meant to be a list, not a decription of the mob. By this I mean groups like the Contras, which smuggled cocaine into the US in order to help pay for their war against the Sandanistas. While I'm not aware of any evidence that the CIA itself ever smuggled any drugs into the US, they did smuggle heroin from Laos to South Vietnam during the Vietnam War, sold the stuff to our own troops, and used the proceeds to fund their secret war in Laos. They also helped the Corsican and Marseilles mafias bring heroin into the US in the 50s and 60s.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by DanS
"Pick up any standard medical textbook."

Since when were standard medical textbooks welcome in a courtroom?

Why wouldn't they? I'm sure that at some point some medical expert questioned about an opinion he has offered on the stand has said something to the effect "well, you can find that in Harrison's Textbook of Internal Medicine".

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


They also helped the Corsican and Marseilles mafias bring heroin into the US in the 50s and 60s.

The mafia has been bringing heroine into the US since the passage of the Harrison Act, nearly 40 years before the CIA was formed.

[The Andy-Man]

Who Cares if its harmful or what ever, Sn00py has the right idea.

Just teach people the effects in school, and then little people choose for themselves.


As for depression from weed, i think you have to look at who smokes it. I am not saying depressed people smoke pot, but in my expirience mainly teenagers smoke it, and teenagers are in alot of cases gonna be depressed over something, its not necisarily the dope. Thoiugh I think it does cause mild depression, but a ****load more if you take a pot heads pot off of him.

[Dis]

sorry I couldn't be bothered to read the article. . I'm just repsonding to the thread title.

[Berzerker]

Strangelove -

Pick up any standard medical textbook. Look up alcohol in the table of contents or the index. You'll find plenty of information about the harmful effects of alcohol.

You are reading his words out of context, he said he was unaware there was something "inherently"
harmful about alcohol, there isn't unless used in it's pure form. Few products in life are inherently harmful, and it seems diluted alcohol used in moderation can have some beneficial effects.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
The mafia has been bringing heroine into the US since the passage of the Harrison Act, nearly 40 years before the CIA was formed.

That may be true, but once the CIA decided that the Mafia could be useful as anti-communists, they began helping them get the stuff into the US. The Bureau of Narcotics (forerunner of the DEA) was completely subsumed into the anti-communist agenda, and it turned a blind eye to mafia smuggling (though keeping up the pressure on end users and marijunana). So the CIA made it easier for the Mob to get away with what it was already doing. In return, the mob pushed the commies out of the unions in the US and in France and Italy they took even more extreme measures.

[General Ludd]

Doesn't matter how much you dillute it, it's still a poison.

Originally posted by Berzerker
Strangelove -

You are reading his words out of context, he said he was unaware there was something "inherently"
harmful about alcohol, there isn't unless used in it's pure form. Few products in life are inherently harmful, and it seems diluted alcohol used in moderation can have some beneficial effects.

Yeah, if you consider being drunk "beneficial".


Dilluting it just lessens it's effects a little - instead of killing you, it stops your brain from functioning properly untill it passes through your system. I do not see how that could be considered anything else other then harmful.

EDIT: Not to mention the other more permininent effects that it can have on your body, such as damaging your kydney or liver.

[chequita guevara]

Re: Doesn't matter how much you dillute it, it's still a poison.

Originally posted by Osweld
Dilluting it just lessens it's effects a little - instead of killing you, it stops your brain from functioning properly untill it passes through your system. I do not see how that could be considered anything else other then harmful.

one to two glasses daily helps prevent colon cancer. One to two glasses of red wine daily help reduce plaque in your blood vessels.