The creeping fog of disillusionment in the United States continues to roll...

[Kingof the Apes]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
There are already some parents who have embedded the ID chip into their kids.

"What were you doing there last night, young man?"
"I was asking directions! Honest!"

[Sprayber]

Re: The creeping fog of disillusionment in the United States continues to roll...

The title suggests you have been reading cheap novels. Which one did you tap for the title?

[Ned]

Or maybe the ID chip could be set to go off and disable the alien if he or she overstays their visa, or goes somewhere other than where they say they are going - something like the death chip that almost timed out to kill Snake Pliskin in "Escape from New York."

We seem to be moving in the right direction.

[DRoseDARs]

Re: Re: The creeping fog of disillusionment in the United States continues to roll...

Originally posted by Sprayber
The title suggests you have been reading cheap novels. Which one did you tap for the title?

I actually wrestled with what to call it/what would be appropriate. This title seemed to suffice, though I wasn't completely satisfied with it. Like I said, I'm not sure what to feel about the latest proposal, hence my uncertainty on what to name the thread.

In jest: "World Domination for Dummies, by George W. Bush Jr." Chapter 5: Prepping The Sheep In Your Homeland.

[Dis]

basically the republicans want more people to travel by car. Which is what will happen.

More death on the highways

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Dissident
basically the republicans want more people to travel by car. Which is what will happen.

More death on the highways

Damn Germans and Chinese with their Maglev trains! How dare they defy any part of our imperialist plans for total world conquest! Nuke the insolent swine!!!

[chequita guevara]

So wait? I have to give the Federal government all kinds of information if I want to leave the country?

This enhances my security how?

[optimus2861]

Agree with Che, making people leaving the country submit that information sounds a bit, well, dumb.

But for US citizens entering the US? Don't they have to fill out customs forms or something, as it stands now? After all, when I reenter Canada after an international flight, I have to fill out a form with pretty well all the information that was described, I have to talk to a customs officer, etc. This article suggests that this isn't the case ... ?

[Sava]

I want to give the government misinformation... I dunno why, I mean, if they atre watching me, they're stupid because i'm not a terrorist.

[chequita guevara]

You always had to give that information upon entering the US. It's an annoying hassle. If goods and capital can come into and out of the US from Mexican and Canada and the US unrestricted, I should be able to do the same.

What we need is a joint customs union.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by Dissident
basically the republicans want more people to travel by car. Which is what will happen.

More death on the highways

Actually cars can be tracked as well thanks to a unique ID tag in the tires. The emphasis here is placed on tracking tires throughout the production cycle. But these RFID tire tracking tags can just as well be used by insurance companies (car theft), government agencies or....toll booths.

Note: this system is already in place


So, if I stated that if i installed scanning booths that would regardless scan every car that travels over a highway or motorway. Would that worry you?

http://home.intermec.com/eprise/main/Intermec/Content/About/NewsPages/pressRelease?section=about&pressID=355

Intermec to Support First RFID Standard for Tire Tracking and Traceability

* AIAG’s B-11 is one of the world’s first global RFID standard for item-level tracking and traceability
* Intermec is first supplier to offer commercially available tags and readers that comply with AIAG’s B-11

EVERETT, Wash., February 21, 2002 – Intermec Technologies Corp. acknowledges the Automotive Industry Action Group’s (AIAG) industry leadership for generating one of the world’s first item-level RFID (radio frequency identification) tracking and traceability standards, known as B-11.

Based on the group’s actions, Intermec announces the commercial availability of RFID tags and readers that immediately support the new standard.

The B-11 standard will guide further introduction of RFID technology into the auto industry. Among the first planned applications will be inclusion of an RFID tag on new-car tires, allowing car and tire manufacturers and tire retailers to track tires throughout production, assembly and distribution.

This item-level tracking capability can enable more targeted recalls and increased safety for consumers. The B-11 standard also provides a useful technology tool to help automakers and retailers streamline their respective supply chains.

RFID technology allows companies to track items without the line of sight requirements of other forms of automatic data collection such as barcode systems. RFID systems typically use a computer chip and a tiny antenna, packaged together and known as a tag, together with readers known as interrogators, to provide information at many times the speed of traditional bar code technology.

As currently mandated by the Department of Transportation, a portion of the on-tire information identifies the time of manufacture within a one-week window. RFID tire tags built to the B-11 specification dramatically improves that resolution, making it possible to pinpoint time of manufacture down to the minute. Because the standard provides each tire tag with a unique ID number, each tire can be treated as a separate entity. As a result, information gathered from tire assembly through shipping and receiving can be inherently more accurate.

Initially, RFID tire tags may be affixed to the outside of the tire and eventually embedded in the tire itself.

During the vehicle assembly process, automakers will be able to add the vehicle’s identification number (VIN) to the tag’s memory. The information then can be downloaded into a database, matching every tire to the vehicle on which it is installed, including the spare – in effect creating a vehicle "fingerprint." The history of the vehicle then can be tracked, including the dealer and the eventual owner, so that if a recall occurs, the tires in question can be targeted to an individual vehicle.

"The new RFID tire tag standard, to which Intermec’s Intellitag conforms, has the potential to transform the manufacturing and distribution processes for tires," said Intermec Vice President Jim Evans. "This technology gives the manufacturer a dynamic work-in-progress viewpoint, tracking each and every minute of a tire’s build, right through to, and including, shipping."

"These tags could improve consumer safety by providing information quickly and accurately in the event a tire recall should ever become necessary." said Bill Hoffman, manager, Automotive Supply Chain, Intermec, and chairman of AIAG’s RFID Tire and Wheel Identification workgroup.

With its passive read/write design and long-range capabilities (up to eight feet read range), Intermec’s RFID tire tag can be used throughout the tire supply chain, benefiting distributors and retailers as well as tire and auto manufacturers, Evans said.

The B-11 protocol is the product of less than 12 months’ work by AIAG’s AIDC/RFID Work Group and supports the Tread Act, which is the federal government’s mandate that the industry develop a mechanism to track tire recalls. The group currently is working on adding RFID standards for wheels to the B-11 and is expected to have that completed within the next several months

[Lorizael]

My only real problem with this is having to give your place of residence while in the United States. I don't see why the government really needs to know that all. The rest of the information seems alright to me.

Still, I worry, hopefully needlessly, that Americans will become so used to the idea that security is more important than the nature of this nation that when they have lost their freedom, they don't even notice it.

[Drake Tungsten]

My only real problem with this is having to give your place of residence while in the United States. I don't see why the government really needs to know that all.

If the Feds notice that you made stops off in Saudi Arabia and the Sudan on your last overseas trip, they might want to ask you a few questions. How are they supposed to find you if they don't have an address?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So wait? I have to give the Federal government all kinds of information if I want to leave the country?

This enhances my security how?

So when you try to come back in, they know who to stop and deny entry