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**Juggernaut** · December 29, 2002, 22:44

Atleast we know what the Danish islands would be.

**Urban Ranger** · December 30, 2002, 00:02

Hong Kong, or maybe even Shanghai.

**Nubclear** · December 30, 2002, 00:15

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Hong Kong, or maybe even Shanghai.

Wouldn't that require knowledge in, um, Chinese?

**Urban Ranger** · December 30, 2002, 00:19

Not for a while, particularly in Hong Kong you can get by not knowing any Chinese at all. It is advisable to learn it, though.

**Urban Ranger** · December 30, 2002, 00:21

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Jop ops? Anything in IT or most hard sciences will have them snapping you up.

How good is the IT market? It's sucking up here so I may need to look elsewhere.

**monolith94** · December 30, 2002, 00:26

Come live in Massachusetts!
-Needs to be fairly cheap.
Hmmmm. Not cheap, but I wouldn't say it's THAT expensive. You can always go live in Lynn! *snicker*
-Good job oppritunities.
Yup. Route 128 is the Silicon Valley of the East!
-Good education.
Boston colleges, we founded public education, etc.
-Something to do!!!
Hell yeah! BOSTON!
-Fairly low crime. I don't want to get murdered on the way home.
Even in the most economically depressed areas, like Worcester and Lynn, crime isn't a huge issue. I wouldn't go walking around alone at night in all areas of those two cities but hey, nothing's perfect!

**Nubclear** · December 30, 2002, 00:38

Originally posted by monolith94
Come live in Massachusetts!

That would be nice

can always go live in Lynn! *snicker*

**MrWhereItsAt** · December 30, 2002, 00:38

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

How good is the IT market? It's sucking up here so I may need to look elsewhere.

Put it this way. In my home city of Wellington (about 350,000, Auckland is the largest at over 1 million) the Maths and CompSci department of the University has had to increase the hourly wages of their second year tutors from the Uni standard of $12 to $20 so they don't lose all their undergraduates to downtown IT businesses. I can only imagine how much they pay their postgraduate tutors.

$20 NZ per hour may not sound like much, but this is for 18/19 year olds with no finished qualifications other than a College leaving certificate and our equivalent of Grade 12. And I have some friends who get away with only a year of Uni study (so no quals apart from the above) and within a year or two are up to near $100k/year. There's not much scope for making even more money in NZ, but you can reach that pretty much instantly.

**Kontiki** · December 30, 2002, 00:39

Toronto's got everything you're looking for, except the cheap part. Unfortunately, it's got one of the higher costs of living in the world.

**Ned** · December 30, 2002, 00:59

Originally posted by Tassadar5000

Hmm....I prefer English-Speaking countries, thanks.

Give us a couple of months.

**Tingkai** · December 30, 2002, 01:04

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Hong Kong, or maybe even Shanghai.

Tass is looking for a place that is fairly cheap and has a good education system so that rules out Hong Kong.

On the other hand, salaries for expats are usually high in HK and taxes are extremely low.

**Nubclear** · December 30, 2002, 01:33

Originally posted by Ned

Give us a couple of months.

I also prefer countries that have cities that are, well, built not bombed,

**Urban Ranger** · December 30, 2002, 01:46

Originally posted by Tingkai
Tass is looking for a place that is fairly cheap and has a good education system so that rules out Hong Kong.

On the other hand, salaries for expats are usually high in HK and taxes are extremely low.

Well, Hong Kong can be very cheap as long as you don't have dinners at Regent all the time and so on

Also the education system isn't half bad, depending on what he wants to learn.

But we have things to do here. Also, Hong Kong is a good jump off point to visit China.

**Urban Ranger** · December 30, 2002, 01:48

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Put it this way. In my home city of Wellington (about 350,000, Auckland is the largest at over 1 million) the Maths and CompSci department of the University has had to increase the hourly wages of their second year tutors from the Uni standard of $12 to $20 so they don't lose all their undergraduates to downtown IT businesses. I can only imagine how much they pay their postgraduate tutors.

$20 NZ per hour may not sound like much, but this is for 18/19 year olds with no finished qualifications other than a College leaving certificate and our equivalent of Grade 12. And I have some friends who get away with only a year of Uni study (so no quals apart from the above) and within a year or two are up to near $100k/year. There's not much scope for making even more money in NZ, but you can reach that pretty much instantly.

Cool. Do I need to get a work visa or something like that? How do I start looking?

**Apocalypse** · December 30, 2002, 01:51

David Floyd is right about Texas. The cost of living and taxes are much lower than in most states. This is why many sports stars live here.

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