N Korea defies US over nuclear crisis

[Graag]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2608563.stm

An interesting development, what the hell will the US do now? Is there any way the US can control a nuclear-capable country without the risk of a nuclear war?

[Nubclear]

Re: N Korea defies US over nuclear crisis

Since we know they possibly may have nukes, we shall resolve this peacefully

But since we know that IRAQ possibly may have nukes, they must DIE!

[Urban Ranger]

No. Iraq doesn't have nukes, that's why the US is attacking. Yeah, picking on the little guys, shameful.

[The Viceroy]

N.Korea have chosen their moment carefully .. although they've been researching nuclear weapons all the time anyway.

Its difficult to see what anybody can do, damned if we do nothing, and damned if we do .. personally, I think we have to stop N.Korea, because already Iran is talking of following suit ..

Its one thing to talk big (Axis of evil) and another to put your forces where your mouth is ..

Maybe its time to hit these facilities and knock them out, but I can only imagine the problems that will cause, and with Iraq being the focus, I can imagine the best course of action is to try and delay N.Korea, and deal with them once Iraq has fallen.

[Eli]

No. Iraq doesn't have nukes, that's why the US is attacking. Yeah, picking on the little guys, shameful.

Picking on the ones they can pick.
A nuclear nation can do pretty much whatever it wants, this is why the US is afraid to deal with NK, and this is why someone must deal with Iran and Lybia before it's too late.

[The Viceroy]

and guess who will make Iran and Libya nuclear capable ... N.Korea (at a price of course)..

[Urban Ranger]

Nope, seems like Pakistan. Don't forget that they were/are helping DPRK.

[The Viceroy]

You may be right there.. both countries are a real risk.

[Graag]

Say these countries (Iran, Libya) do eventually get nuclear weapons... then what?

As far as I can see (not too far) if a nation is ideologically opposed to the US and has nuclear weapons, the only way the US can control it is through money; either a hefty bribe or the cutting off of all foreign money.
Once a couple of anti-US nations have nukes, they will inevitabley share with their other anti-US chums (for a price of course). Looking 20 years down the line we may well have a situation where there are numerous nations utterly opposed to the US and nuclear capable, with the US in no position to control them in any way.
Seems to me the US is polarizing the world: for us and against us. Sooner or later there has to be a hell of a big bang.

[Solly]

Yep. We should nuke North Korea now.

[Robert]

let's predict when nuclear weapons will be used next.

I say 2012

[The Viceroy]

I think your future vision is not far from the mark, if things continue as they are, we could find ourselves at a point where western populations actually believe the only way to respond, is to declare war on everybody who does not subscribe to western democracy .. WW3 ..

Sept 11th was just the start, a pin ***** that made many people realise that if you fail to plan, you plan to fail !! To attack the enemy before they can even raise a single fist against you, is now seen as an almost acceptable consideration .. how long before it becomes the only consideration, and the enemy becomes real nations, with real weapons of mass destruction !

One thing is for sure, if we fail to act now, things will not get better.

[Saint Marcus]

2003

[Saint Marcus]

I'm glad Europe is (mostly) staying away from these issues. Iraq, Korea and Iran have no quarrel with Europe (I'm not counting Britain). We should build up peaceful relations with those nations, while the US is warmongering. That's the best chance we have of staying clear of a nuclear war.

[Graag]

Tricky one. My prediction for The Apocalypse is around 2023-2033, unless nukes are used within the next 10-15 years, which seems unlikely as all current and soon-to-be nuclear powers aren't nearly insane enough (yes, that includes N. Korea and Iraq).