Music versus Lyrics

[Al B. Sure!]

What is more important to you? The instrumental music or the lyrics?

I think lyrics are the most important. Lyrics express emotions and thoughts far more clearly and better than instrumentals can... and lyrics are the only means of expressing intellectual ideas in music.



thanks

[SlowwHand]

Surprising then that you don't ever post lyrics in our lyrics thread.
Even a ghetto-dweller like you is welcome, Albert.

[spartak]

Music over lyrics anyday.

[Apocalypse]

I say lyrics too. I can't stand a song if it has no real meaning behind it.

[Inverse Icarus]

lyrics

[Wraith]

I'm going to have to say both are important in different ways. Everyone else so far seems to believe that lyrics express emotion more clearly than the music, but I have to disagree. I know some great instrumental pieces that express emotion very well, The Moonlight Sonata for instance.
Bad lyrics can kill a good song, and bad music can kill good lyrics. Nor do words automatically give any meaning to a song. Meaning can be expressed in music alone, and it tends to be quite beautiful when it happens.

Now that I think about it a little, I can't think of any lyrics that stand on their own. They tend to be, at best, watered down poetry. Music, however, can stand on it's own when it's well done. If you prefer the lyrics so much, maybe spoken-word poetry is your thing, but I never really did get into that stuff.

Wraith
"Words make you think a thought. Music makes you feel a feeling. A song makes you feel a thought."
--E.Y. Harbug

[*End Is Forever*]

Well obviously as a rap fan Albert isn't going to like the music... but then the lyrical content of rap isn't exactly sparkling either.

[Bereta_Eder]

music...
but the lyrics should not be crap either

[Al B. Sure!]

Slowwhand:

I used to but there's no point... that place is hundreds of songs typed up that nobody bothers to read


And wraith enters with his infinite wisdom...

Yeah but thats the thing. I mainly listen to rap and the best rappers can have their accapellas stand alone. It basically is spoken word albeit better spoken word as rap has rhymes and a better rhythm than poets


thanks

[Buck Birdseed]

Well, obviously as an Emo fan Iain isn't going to like the music... In fact, he shouldn't like the lyrics either, but I expect he'll grow out of it.

For me, it's the music any day. Attempts at poetry in Rock annoy me no end, mainly 'cause it neither fits the style or ever is of decent quality. Now, simple emotional appeals cleverly formulated a la Smokey Robinson or whoever is fine, but to me the Music is almost always king. Especially so in hip-hop, the one area where true innovation in music exists these days in terms of textures, arrangement and rhythmical components.

[Al B. Sure!]

Buck:

The problem is that the most 'interesting' rap beats accompany garbage rappers. Missy Elliot is a perfect example of this. She is a horrible rapper but gets some of the best production. You can't say that Missy Elliot songs are hot just off the beats though she can barely rap?

[Solly]

Buck, find me some interesting shit hop lyrics.

failed coercion leads to intrusion and the blood forever runs
in her head into her hands between her legs where his mind lies
power drives him into murder innocence
on the rack of his devices vices and designs
she will never scrub the stains from her arms from her neck
from her legs the dirt will remain as a reminder of his hateful face
reach in rip apart the inner fibers of her soul
boy you'll never know how it feels to fear the shame
feel free to walk down any dark street without fear
without shame no one is gonna touch you and you don't need protection she shouldn't need protection!
and you can sit there with that stupid smile on your face and try to convince me that you care defined by your power
defined by her body the innocence she feels everybody else contains it's lost it's gone but i guess it doesn't matter anyway
reach in rip apart the inner fibers of her soul
and you can sit there with that stupid smile on your face and try to convince me that you care defined by your power defined by her body defined redefined ****ed tortured and discarded and if he ever cares maybe he will feel ashamed for everything he's stolen for all the trust she gave possessed and broken she cries but it's not our problem
pull down your goddamn blinds he will never think he's wrong she will think you're wrong she will never feel quite right

[Dis]

I like music more. But then again I listen to music where the singers suck and and can't sing their way out of a paper bag .

[Al B. Sure!]

Boddingtons:

I always thought this was interesting..

Ghostface Killah's The Forest

Aiyo, my wiz play the flute, I stroll through the forest like
Peace, pussies, trees, hello, how was your day? Have you seen the prince?
Haven't seen him since he pushed Humpty Da-Dumpty fell off the fence
The smurfs fell out laughin', Heckle toe Jeckle at min,
They took my medicade card, he's a good friend
Bugs still sniffin', Daffy Duck snitchin'
And heard that crazy Bird took the stand on the Simpsons
Bet you "my golly, oh glory" with a story to tell
Droopy got knocked, now he Muslim in jail
His name is Abdrul, Colorful, Snow White tattoo
She used to send him mad flicks in Cash Rule
And the cat too, old girl who's clackin' her shoes
And that wicked witch broke her broom, clappin' at school
It happens every night, I seen it, shoot outs in Jellystone Park
Kermit had the whip, he did from the Narks
They bagged Woody, ****gy shot dead in his hoodie
Tweety did the Bird, "I thaw, I thought I thaw a putty"
Ghost, please you don't even want to know
Droopy Long wrote a song, like to hear it, here it go...
Ricochet Rabbit had a habit, he was savage
Bruto slapped, Magoto slapped out his glasses backwards
Magelity used to come to class wit rachets
He was known in the hood, plus good for his classics
Slashes, blast four-fifths, diamond cut, hollow point tips
Big Boy bustin' out his corderoy fix
Eleven, way beyond is little boy fit
Magoo, he gon' catch him at the teachers' conference
So later that week durin' open school night
Everybody there, saw open school fight
Blows is big, Olive Oil was pissed
The wolf was too, they murdered one of the pigs
He said, "What great big heat you have"
He replied, "**** my gun I'll eat you fast"
He said, "What great big teeth you have"
"Mothafu- you better look at all the beef you have"


After that though, Jerry, Tom's the cat, Ruther Rats
Riff rat, courageous cat, Jossie and the Pussycats
Porky Pig ripped ****, Elmer Fudd's double snub cartoon gat
Had sat in the back of the Hat, the hippos had O's
Wilma had ****ed Johnny Bravo
Richie had his **** snatched then yapped at a live show
That ***** dollar boated yo, Astro screamed on Dino
That's what he gets for ass-betting Snoopy C-low
Goofy had kilos, big hole in his nose, wind blows
Heard he was Moe, and showed how he rolled
Peter Pan's the man, he heard Grammy was blood-ed
She shot Ms. Piggy, she's superior on her set
Pippy Long Stocking had it poppin'
Her and Barney had an army out in pink house, the **** was rockin'
Guess who got rich and bounced? Scrooge McDuck, he had an ounce
Ain't no money out in CandyLand, we out...

[CapitanGarlic]

As long as one of the two is strong, I'm fine. But I tend to prefer good music.