For the region of Apolyton in nationstates.net

[aahz_capone]

As has been mention in the region of Apolyton in nationstates.net we can discuss regional politics here. For example who will be our UN delegate?

Ofcourse we first have to know each other. I know of me, aahz_capone, dissident and jdd2007. Who else is here?

If y'all think we should move this thread to the Other Game forum, I'm OK with that too.

[Nubclear]

Re: For the region of Apolyton in nationstates.net

I am Glorious Comrade President Tassadar representing and leading the people of the Peoples Republic of the Sovietskii Soyuz.

---The following was sent to all nations of Apolyton---

FROM: THE HEAD OF STATE OF THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF THE SOVIETSKII SOYUZ
TO: ALL THE NATIONS OF THE GREAT LAND OF APOLYTON
SUBJECT: UNITED NATIONS DELEGATIONAL ELECTIONS PROPOSITION AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF POSSIBLE CANDIDACY

BODY:

Dear Nations of Apolyton:

Ever since the great colonization of the Apolytonian Archipelago we have been isolated from the rest of the world and although our nations are relatively young we must make contact with the outside world and become integrated with global politics and affairs.
Currently the United Nations has a model set up in which a nation from each region is chosen to represent the bulk of the region when voting and as such will recieve more votes than the rest of the nations in the region. This must be done if we are to enter the outside world however it will be very difficult to elect such a country due to politics and national-ego.
Therefore, I propose the following model: Each nation that wishes to participate will step forth within the next day or two and announce candidacy. Nations that do not wish to participate will then vote on two candidates to stand up for the General Elections. This step is, of course, skipped if there are only two nations willing to participate. Then all nations with the exception of the states up for candidacy will vote on whom they want. All voting nations, however, will be required to have a membership with the United Nations. Then the nation that wins the General Elections will become our delegate to the United Nations. Voting will be in non-official form where simply the names are submitted and counted and the winning nation will then recieve the official endorsements of all nations. I also propose strict rules on 'campaigining' as to prevent the degeneration of the dignity of sovergn nations within Apolyton.
Moving on, I believe that my own nation of the Sovietskii Soyuz stands up to become the delegation to the United Nations. However pending approval and/or modification of my outlined plan I will not beginning campaigning just yet in order to begin structuring out great alliance that we all have formed out of peace and brotherhood. That is all, and thank you.

Tassadar
Peoples Republic of the Sovietskii Soyuz
Head of State

[Drogue]

That sounds good, but nationstates already has a system fior that. Any UN country may endorce any other UN country in that region, and the one with the most endorsements becomes the UN delegate.

I formally put my name forward for UN delegate, in the name of Apolyton and the people of the Commonwealth of Akiria, and stand for freedom, social welfare but with a strong economy, compassion, civil rights, ecological issues and most importantly, peace.

However, you do not have to put your name forward to be endorsed. And the Delegate is not the only person who votes in the UN, however they do get an extra voted for each endorsement they receive. I think that's how it works anyway

I think we should move this to either our region page or to the forums on nationstate, because other non-'Poly people can join our region, and it is fairer for them.

[Sheik]

I am in. My nation is Sheikaton:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=sheikaton

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drogue
That sounds good, but nationstates already has a system fior that. Any UN country may endorce any other UN country in that region, and the one with the most endorsements becomes the UN delegate.

Yes, however the system I proposed is much more organized. We have our elections here and simply endorse the winner of those elections. Although that is rather un-nesisary..I still think we should have the pre-qualification phase and make sure everyone votes for the candidates.

And you are correct that the delegate is not the only person in the region who gets to vote, however I believe they get 7 (We have eight people) additional votes so it would take a unanimous decision by the rest of the members to block the delegate. I promise to uphold socialism, civil liberties, political freedoms, and vote for the common good of the collective. However I also promise to uphold moral standards because a country with no morality is not a country, but simply a rouge nation-state and an alliance of such ways is not an alliance at all.

[Nubclear]

Also, I believe we should post whatever we are to post on our regional page AND here so that in the case the regional page is, for whatever reason, acting slowly as it has been doing we can still communicate.

Also Sheik: WELCOME!

[Drogue]

I disagree, I think that means the delegate gets much more power than the people he endorces. Akiria will not endorse a candidate they do not agree with, and I would not expect any other nation to do so. That is forced voting, and as you said, it would take a unanimous decision to block the one delegate. Moreover, some people will not want to endorse anyone.

[Jon Shafer]

I'm playing a different but similar game called SimCountry.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drogue
I disagree,

I'm sorry I don't believe I know what exactly you are referring too...Therefore I cannot respond to your post. Please clarify.

In other news Oh no.....tripgot.......

[Drogue]

I agree with double posting, but I think it would be better on [irl=http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1]NationStates Forum[/url] rather than 'Poly, for the benefit of the non-'Poly members of the region.

[aahz_capone]

---In responce to Glorious Comrade President Tassadar's letter to the nations of Apolyton---

FROM: THE SOVEREIGN OF THE FEDERATION OF IMPERIAL REPUBLICS
TO: ALL THE NATIONS OF THE GREAT LAND OF APOLYTON
SUBJECT: UNITED NATIONS DELEGATIONAL ELECTIONS PROPOSITION AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF POSSIBLE CANDIDACY

BODY:

My fellow Heads of State,

G.C.P. Tassadar's election model is a sound plan. As we are but a foundling land, we must put aside or differences for stability. I myself am in the midst of directing my senate on some rather pressing local issues, thus I will refrain from standing for election for the post of UN delegate for the time being. Perheps in the future when elections are again on the agenda I will run for the office.

Until that time however, i will endorse another head of state. I understand you all have busy scheduals and cannot go around campaigning like some poor despot stuck in the Pacific, so don't bother on my acount, my mind will be made up within 48 hours.

I would like to propose one thing however: that the UN delegate would consult with all Apolyton lands before casting a referendum vote and that the vote not be cast with a 2/3 majority of the Apolyton nation states.

Kind regards,

Aahz Capone, Lord Chancellor
Federation of Imperial Republics
Apolyton Region

[Drogue]

I disagreed to "I still think we should have the pre-qualification phase and make sure everyone votes for the candidates." Because I think they have a system that is more democratic, and represents the will of each nation more, as they can vote for anyone, and are not bound into voting for anyone.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drogue
I disagreed to "I still think we should have the pre-qualification phase and make sure everyone votes for the candidates." Because I think they have a system that is more democratic, and represents the will of each nation more, as they can vote for anyone, and are not bound into voting for anyone.

I disagree Because I believe things could get quite messy if we just let everyone vote for everyone. In the beginning those whom want to step forth shall step fourth....I am simply outlying a model plan. We could just limit it to those whom want to do it which my people believe would be a very democratic system.

[Drogue]

To be honest, I don't think we can. Not all members of Apolyton region are members of 'Poly, and as nationstate have a system set up, it seems a little strange to unnaturally force all our members into a different system.

I formally request that we stick to the consitiution of the UN we wish to join when it comes to elected our delegate.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drogue
To be honest, I don't think we can. Not all members of Apolyton region are members of 'Poly, and as nationstate have a system set up, it seems a little strange to unnaturally force all our members into a different system.

I was not aware of this fact (Because the name "Apolyton" I don't believe would attract many non-poly people ) but in light of it you are completly correct on this issue.