For the region of Apolyton in nationstates.net

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
I disagree Because I believe things could get quite messy if we just let everyone vote for everyone. In the beginning those whom want to step forth shall step fourth....I am simply outlying a model plan. We could just limit it to those whom want to do it which my people believe would be a very democratic system.

I would agree to that, we should limit it to the people that wish to be delegate, but we should not force vote. You may endorse whichever candidate you want.

[aahz_capone]

btw, is there any way to veto non-'poly people joining our region so as too keep this er... an ethincally pure region? (My God! That sounded terrible!! )

That's the beauty of living in Apolyton. I think as Drogue says we SHOULD discuss Regional politics in the nationstates forum to make it fair for those non-poly states, HOWEVER, those of us in the know can more privatly communicate here to give us "ethnic Apolytons" an edge, because I don't take with that foreign collonial nonpoly riffraff. :P

[aahz_capone]

speaking of which, if the delgate gets an extra vote, but the nations of the region can still vote seperately, how do we control the delegate not abusing his vote or still voting in contrast to the regional majority? and in the long term if necessary how do we choose a new delegate?

This is why I think reaching at least a 2/3 majority is important, instead of a 51% majority.

[Drogue]

That stinks of ethnic cleansing! There is to be none of that in Apolyton (Not even against Finns )

Besides, one of my lucrative trade partners has joined us Not that money would influence such a leader no, couldn't be that at all...

[Drogue]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
speaking of which, if the delgate gets an extra vote, but the nations of the region can still vote seperately, how do we control the delegate not abusing his vote or still voting in contrast to the regional majority? and in the long term if necessary how do we choose a new delegate?

We can't. And they don't get one extra vote, they get one extra for each nation that endorses them. It could be 8 extra votes if we go with Tass' plan. You choose a new delegate by removign your endorsement from one nation and giving it to another IIRC.

[aahz_capone]

The problem with discussing EVERYTHING in the nationstates forum is that other nations from other regions can look into our top secret regional council secions and secondly the General and UN forum there is a mess. seriously everybody is talking about everything (much like we do in the OT forum here). If we keep large discussions of great importance here in poly where we have space and order and decisions of great importance in the regionforum I think we will do OK.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
The problem with discussing EVERYTHING in the nationstates forum is that other nations from other regions can look into our top secret regional council secions and secondly the General and UN forum there is a mess. seriously everybody is talking about everything (much like we do in the OT forum here).

I think you have it there. Just like the OT forum here. Would it be any better if we moved it here? If we do, we can tell people who join where our discussions are based, or post in on our region page. We could even use IRC if we want to have a conference?

[aahz_capone]

I suppose it would be too hard to ask Ming or some other kind and gentle moderator to make a nationstates forum so that we could have multiple threads all orginzed here at 'poly?



please?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
I suppose it would be too hard to ask Ming or some other kind and gentle moderator to make a nationstates forum so that we could have multiple threads all orginzed here at 'poly?



please?

I support this as well and I also suport "forced voting" because we might as well give our delegate much power and if I am elected I will serve the will of the collective

Now I apologize but it's time to go spend some nice, quality Christmas time with the family Have fun!

[Drogue]

I agree too, our own forum would be great

I will not support forced voting, nor take any part in it's implimentation, as it is against the ideals of my people. Though we are a group, we are a group of pretty differently minded states, and as such some will not support some others (like the "Iron Fist Consumerists" and the "Left-wing Utopians") and we will all have different proposals we want or do not want, therefore I do not think forced or block voting will work.

[aahz_capone]

Tass, I think you missinterpreted the way delegates work, just as I did. I figured it out now.

A region does not have 1 delegate. It can have many. And by commming to an agreement on who gets "all" votes to become the only uberdelegate would risk that delegate becoming powerpsycho and going AWOL. So this is my new preposal that should keep both you and drogue happy:

The region members may, if they want to, form "confederations". That is for example, I vote for tass, tass votes for drogue and drogue votes for me. Then we all vote the same at the UN. This jockeying for political rings will great a nice partisan politcs sphere in our region and keep likeminded nations together while not giving up their vote to a nation whose idiology they don't like, making drogue happy. Ofcourse, not everybody will want to make a ring/confederation, or might create a "two man ring". These are the independents.

Now since you can endorse anyone at anytime the rings will probably change per UN resolution. However not much considering idiologies precent. If we all agree on something we may be able to great a super ring and double our regions voting power if we leave out no independents. This will keep the political power in our hands at the UN that tass obviously wants to preserve, effectively just like a collective will as he so nicely put it.

merry christmas.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
I suppose it would be too hard to ask Ming or some other kind and gentle moderator to make a nationstates forum so that we could have multiple threads all orginzed here at 'poly?



please?

We can do it, in the strict technical sense, but that's MarkG and DanQ turf.

[SnowFire]

It already exists... the S&D. Being that it's the catch-all for anything of this sort, and currently isn't under a huge load due to the slowness of the Dip games so far...

[aahz_capone]

Really? wow! thanx for the info. It wouldn't hurt anybody in the miscellaneous or other game areas.

How can we go about petitioning MarkG and DanQ for this? It would save us a lot of trouble sorting through the mess that is the nationstates.net forum.

edit: after reading snow's post

yeah, haven't thought of that. the miscellaneous stories and diplomacy forum. It's not being used a lot so we might as well do all the nationstates debating there. I'll post it at the Regional Apolyotn HQ at nationstates.net so everybody gets the idea. thanx!

[GeneralTacticus]

How exactly does one join a particular region?