Just wonderful. I am obsessed with psychology part 2

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison

How do I get one of those smilies?! Is it :virgin:?

[Provost Harrison]

It's rocentre: to you

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Man zylka,

That conversation sounds like dozens I used to have with my current girlfriend before we started going out (and by the way we still are and are very happy). So just because she's drunk or whatnot, it doesn't mean anything. I've found booze just brings out the truth more than anything... as long as you don't abuse it and bang her when she's loaded, that would just make her not like you in the long run.

But post a picture of you and her and then I'll tell you if she likes you.

Hey, its a superficial world

But I think she likes you, and if she doesn't, she's just coming to realize that she does. Now is your time to act, you have to solidify it by just being the nicest most sweetest cutest guy she's ever known. So act act act. Or time will run out.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

And Zylka,

I am the king of manipluating girls into liking me (its not as bad as it sounds ), so if you want some advice for specific situations, post here or pm me.

Your situation sounds alot like mine was, thats why I'm offering.

[Zylka]

That's just what I need for establishing a real relationship, I haven't had anything meaningful or permanent since I was 15. Funny doing it on a gaming site, but I do respect some of you f*ckers

I'm freaking out right now because the plan was to surprise her at home and take her out Boxing day shopping, but it seems that the malls conveniently close early today!!! I need to conjure up some sort of excuse to drag her around town now

[Provost Harrison]

You could, erm, ask her out?

[Zylka]

Which is about as subtle as dropping my pants on her doorstep. She's dating someone right now

[Provost Harrison]

Well you never said that before...which kind of screws things up...move on and forget it.

[Zylka]

Then you didn't read part one of this saga, in which I spent an hour and a half on ICQ mindf*cking so she'd break up with him. The convo ended with

"now you have me second guessing everything"

I've never actively broken up a relationship before, that's what makes this the tricky project it is

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Zylka
That's just what I need for establishing a real relationship, I haven't had anything meaningful or permanent since I was 15. Funny doing it on a gaming site, but I do respect some of you f*ckers

I'm freaking out right now because the plan was to surprise her at home and take her out Boxing day shopping, but it seems that the malls conveniently close early today!!! I need to conjure up some sort of excuse to drag her around town now

No, its not manipulating her, its manipulating the situation so it goes in your favour.

Now if I udnerstand right, she has a boyfriend (mine did too... or at least a bed buddy she was attached to) so no matter which way you look at it, you're manipulating. So don't get all moral on me

And never never never move on and forget, at least not until the very last fat lady sings AFTER the opera is over. Otherwise you're practicing a great method of not getting what you want.

Here's something to think about. Girls, by default, don't like anyone. You have to MAKE them like you. And I don't mean forcing them, I just mean demonstrating that you're the type of guy who can meet they're needs. The guys that typically get all the girls don't get them because they're necessarily better looking, they just have better luck because their good looks make them the kinds of cocky f*cks who will go for the gold with more vigor.

I'm not saying be an *******, you just can't be passive. Get your friends in on it too... that can help if only by giving you the confidence knowing you're not alone in it. Like when I pursued my current girlfriend I worked like a dog, day in and day out, until I got her... 6 months later, and over a year after I had started liking her. And now, we're happy and living together and plan to get married. So just because you "manipulated" (for lack of a better word) the situation, doesn't make it any less real. Of course the effort is only worth it if you think she's the type of girl you want to be with for a long while. Not just some fling.

Oh, and if you say she told you she's starting to doubt everything (re her boyfriend) then you HAVE her! At least your chances of succes just got exponentially higher. If she really loved him, she would have no doubts at all. If she some doubts, she would keep them to herself. If she's sharing the fact that she has doubts with others, that means she has alot of doubts. And that works for you.

Hey, my methods (even though I haven't really shared any specific ones) may sound unorthodox, but they work. My friends were always telling me I was nuts, but then in the end, they all agreed that I was the mac daddy of them all.

Ah, whatever

[Zylka]

I didn't mean to sound moral there, I think that was a simple miscommunication. You're ideas and general attitude presented are very encouraging. One thing I'm starting to learn here (for securing something official), is the virtue of outright persistance - I've been too passive. Realizing the time it takes is a little discouraging though:

I'm going to level with you though, and perhaps you'll understand to a greater degree the ferocity of my concern. She's 17, a virgin, and New Years Eve is Friday. You say six months, I have a week. Mission impossible?

Now who has the higher morals?

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Zylka
I didn't mean to sound moral there, I think that was a simple miscommunication. You're ideas and general attitude presented are very encouraging. One thing I'm starting to learn here (for securing something official), is the virtue of outright persistance - I've been too passive. Realizing the time it takes is a little discouraging though:

I'm going to level with you though, and perhaps you'll understand to a greater degree the ferocity of my concern. She's 17, a virgin, and New Years Eve is Friday. You say six months, I have a week. Mission impossible?

Now who has the higher morals?

Mine had just turned 18 when I started, and was a virgin They're all the better.

So whats this? Does something happen on New Years? WHere does she live for the rest of the year? Where do you live? Do you HAVE to bag her by then?

[Zylka]

In order, the agenda is as follows:

1 - Stop him from bagging her, which I'm 99% sure will happen on New Year's (If I find out it has already happened, I'll inject draino and send you a thank you card)
2 - Pluck the cherry myself

Trust me, she's ripe - and knows it. I'll be happy enough if I can accomplish #1, and secure #2 even within a few months.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Zylka
In order, the agenda is as follows:

1 - Stop him from bagging her, which I'm 99% sure will happen on New Year's (If I find out it has already happened, I'll inject draino and send you a thank you card)
2 - Pluck the cherry myself

Trust me, she's ripe - and knows it. I'll be happy enough if I can accomplish #1, and secure #2 even within a few months.

Where do all of you (including her and her boyfriend) live during the normal year?

[Zylka]

We all live seperate with our parents. If it matters - near same part of town, city of a million.

That whole virginity thing is starting to sound like a horrible trophy, but to me it represents who she'll first fall in love with. Love, as we've come to know - is of permanence, and can make for something longlasting.