Not the best way to spend Christmas Eve...

[DRoseDARs]

Well, this is one way to deal with an unruly child. Why bother with a lump of coal in their stocking when you can put a lead bullet through their heart, killing them?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Northeast/12/25/police.shooting.ap/index.html

I hope they both get a life sentence, no parole.
(I don't support the Death penalty though they both rightfully deserve it...)

And on Christmas Eve no less...

[Asher]

You hope the state troopers are given life sentences without parole?

[David Floyd]

If you steal a car, I'm not gonna feel too sorry for you if something bad happens along the way.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Asher
You hope the state troopers are given life sentences without parole?

12 years old. The child was 12 years old. I honestly don't care what excuse or explaination the troopers give: they murdered a child.

[Asher]

I think it's a tad bit early to be condemning everybody.

If a 12 year old pointed a gun at me I'd shoot him too, especially while on the adrenalin and rage of the aftermath of a high-speed chase.

Don't be so quick to judge...

If a 12 year old pointed a gun and you and started shooting, would you refrain from returning fire on the account of him being 12 years old?

The story is EXTREMELY short on detail, and only mentions the kid died when troopers shot him after a high speed chase.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Asher
I think it's a tad bit early to be condemning everybody.

If a 12 year old pointed a gun at me I'd shoot him too, especially while on the adrenalin and rage of the aftermath of a high-speed chase.

Don't be so quick to judge...

Which is why there is a lot of talk about BANNING police car chases. Either the criminal being pursued or the cops chasing them hurt, even kill inocent bystanders. What's more, the cops can often times get over-zealous, clouding their judgment and limiting their objectivity. This is just more fuel for the fire.

[Asher]

If we completely ban police chases, isn't this an open invitation that if you want to get away with a crime, just hop in a car and drive?

There's no magical answer to the problem, people are kidding themselves if they think banning police chases is going to fix everything.

I think the real problem here is the 12 year old twerp who stole the ****ing car and ran from the cops. Not the cops who were doing their jobs.

Anyway, wait more more info...

[Nubclear]

Drive away to Canada!

[DRoseDARs]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't cops get special training on how to use and fire guns. Aren't they given training on how to AIM at things other than the head and torso regions? You don't die from being shot in the arm or leg, provided you see a doctor sometime within a few days of being shot...

They probably could have found a better solution. But like I said, I don't care what their excuse is: they murdered a child. If it were an adult, there's only a little leeway as an adult (unless mentally deficient) knows the difference between right and wrong and knows that actions have consequences. A child is still learning those parts of life. Killing him doesn't teach him, it only kills him. Adult can weigh his or her decisions against their possible consequences, but a child has far less resources and experiances upon which to draw reasonable conclusions, especially in a fight-or-flight scenario.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Drive away to Canada!

Or Mexico...

[Asher]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't cops get special training on how to use and fire guns. Aren't they given training on how to AIM at things other than the head and torso regions? You don't die from being shot in the arm or leg, provided you see a doctor sometime within a few days of being shot...

I'm not sure if you've ever fired a gun.

A 12 year old isn't exactly a big target, first of all.
Not to mention trying to hit his arms or legs if he's FLEEING from police.

I understand why you're upset, a 12 year old has died, but we don't know a damn thing about the exact circumstances of the incident so why don't we lay off...

They probably could have found a better solution.

I'm 99% sure they didn't intend to kill him...

But like I said, I don't care what their excuse is: they murdered a child.

I'd shoot the bastard too if he started shooting at me. I don't care how old he is.

[Dis]

I have seen some 12 year olds that are kind of big. And dressed in winter clothing how are the troopers going to know?

I don't really agree with using deadly force on a non-violent suspect. But I guess the officers felt the kid needlessly endangered others by leading them on a high speed chase, so they felt otherwise.

[DRoseDARs]

I have, many times, when I was younger. Stepdad took me shooting when I was 11; he wanted to show me proper gun safety and later how to clean and care for guns. We have a shotgun, two hand guns, and a revolver in the safe downstairs. I've never been shown the combination and I've long since forgotten much of what I was taught, other than using the safety button and never pointing at people (which goes without saying...)

As far as I'm concerned, you use a slug-thrower, your intention is to kill, that's the only thing they're designed for. They make all manner of non-lethal weapons that debilitate would-be assailants. B*llsh*t the police can't find better ways. Personal favorite are any of the taser-like weapons. Sorry, but that Simpsons episode where they kept shocking each other will always be my favorite...*bzzz*...

[Dis]

This is a mob mentality. You do not act until you get the facts.

I must take exception to this thread. What is this a blood thirsty mob.

It's reasons like these people had public hangings. People like you are bloodthirsty calling for these troopers deaths.

How about we get some facts before we go for their heads.

[Asher]

So you're saying these cops had a taser-gun but didn't use it?

Again, we don't know anything.