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  • #16
    Not necessarily, but it would probably would in most cases. If not, it would indicate that they are attracting a larger audience, though not necessarily their old, hardcore fans.
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    • #17
      The platinum numbers are still going down though.
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      • #18
        That's always the case when you have an explosive debut album.

        By the time the 2nd and 3rd albums roll around some people don't think the band is "fresh" enough anymore and go on to something else.

        So far the 3rd album is selling faster than the 2nd though, so you never know...
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        • #19
          I wouldn't equate one's problems with substance abuse with one's intelligence Asher... sigh...
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #20
            Good lord.

            Who cares what the sales figures are? Why does it matter how many people like "your" band? As long as they're making music that you can enjoy and appreciate, isn't that all that matters?

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            • #21
              Unfortunately, some equate musical talent with sales and money. As is not the case in reality.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #22
                I want to use this thread to say how cool the following 2 bands are.

                Tool. badass. 'nuff said

                System of a Down. A great new (well they aren't that new anymore) band.

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                • #23
                  And Grammies are worthless too.

                  Need I remind people that Jethro Tull beat out Metallica for best metal album?

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                  • #24
                    Nevermind was my favorite album by far.
                    Bah, Bleach was so much better. Nevermind was popified Nirvana. Damn good pop, but still pop. Bleach was more in-line with the actual grunge scene before Pearl Jam et al. bastardized it. Like the Melvins.
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                    • #25
                      I want to use this thread to say how cool the following 2 bands are.

                      Tool. badass. 'nuff said

                      System of a Down. A great new (well they aren't that new anymore) band.


                      I'd also like to plug Queens of the Stone Age and Type O Negative as far as recent alternative bands go.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ixnay
                        Good lord.

                        Who cares what the sales figures are? Why does it matter how many people like "your" band? As long as they're making music that you can enjoy and appreciate, isn't that all that matters?
                        Well, its important that they make at least enough money to keep them fed, so they will be able to produce more songs.

                        I recommend Rammstein for good heavy-metal.
                        For heavy rock, my new favourite is Mayhem of Oz. Listening to them at the moment.
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                        • #27
                          I agree with SOAD, Tool, Nirvana, Rammstein and QOTSA. Anyone who likes QOTSA should check out Kyuss as well, fantastic stoner rock but without the extreme repetitiveness of some stoner rock bands. I suggest "Welcome to Sky Valley" for a first listen.

                          And I have to disagree with Ramo: Pearl Jam is an excellent band, although they're certainly more accessible than early noise-mongerers like the Melvins, Green River and to a lesser extent (early) Soundgarden and Mudhoney. Even though they've written a lot of fairly poppy songs, they've also done some of the greatest rock songs of the 90's (Go, RVM, Last Exit, Insignifance, Grievance, Brain of J), and although I admit that they're more accessible than most of the early grunge songs, that doesn't make them any worse.

                          In a similar vein, Alice in Chains should be mentioned. Slow, depressive, Sabbath-style grunge metal, often copied in the late 90's but never equaled (Staind, Nickelback, etcetera).

                          My last suggestion for now is Therapy?, an Irish punk-metal band that is probably a bit inconsistent, but also very diverse. Punk, hardcore, noise, pop, Gothic ballads, metal, they've done it all, and usually, with great results. Especially their first three albums (Caucasian Psychosis (their first 2 EPs), Nurse and Troublegum) and Semi-Detached are great, even though the style they employ can be radically different on each album. From the Big Black-inspired noise and blind aggression of the first album, the at times even poppy (not a bad thing in this case) punk-metal of Troublegum to the mostly slow gothic balladry on Infernal Love, they're always at least enjoyable and often far more than that (except for some **** songs on Infernal Love, written during the period when they were admittedly with their heads up their asses).

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                          • #28
                            Bleach was good, but Nevermind had the advantage of being mixed and recorded with the highest quality. Nirvana's sound on Nevermind is what I like. I used to listen to a lot of local punk when I went through the whole "I hate popified music" phase. But since I don't watch MTV or listen to the radio, I simply judge music objectively. I don't care much for the philosophy behind being anti-popification. I listen and I judge. If I like it, I like it, regardless of what anti-poppers say.

                            Case in point... I liked Green Day's "DOokie" better than "Kerplunk" and their other pre-pop stuff.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #29
                              Amon Amarth are really good, great sound, don't take the lyrics seriously tho.
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                              • #30
                                Rhapsody
                                Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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