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  • #16
    atheist who live in a "christian" environment

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    • #17
      Also, Christmas isn't solely a Christian holiday anymore. Some people still celebrate it as such, but it has been so secularized over the years that it's quite simple to treat it as a generic holiday celebration. As such, all the "we need to respect diversity" arguments are bull****. Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year, religious or secular, and to deny its importance is idiotic.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by monolith94
        I don't know if it's 'right' or not,, but it's certainly not wrong…
        Happy Holidays certainly has a more inclusive tone than merry christmas, and isn't that what love and religion and all those happy things are supposed to be about, anyway? Inclusion?
        EXCEPT that Chanuka has nothing to do with love and inclusion, it commemorates a military victory ~ 2,000 years ago and the reclaiming of the temple.....

        Im Jewish, and no I think this is ABSURD the guy got fired.....truth be told I DONT like it when people wish me a merry Christmas, HOWEVER I dont like it when they wish me happy holidays either, as then people think Chanuka is about loving people when its not....ANYWAY when people wish me a happy christmas, I say something polite "you too, happy holiday etc..."-not showing my annoyance.


        It is NOT rude to wish someone a Merry Christmas(im annoyed, but I dont think the person is doing anything wrong), however if someone is offended by that their just being a PC ()&!#&)#(!.

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        • #19
          I think it's not "ok" to say merry christmas to someone you know he's not of that religion.

          but if they are agnostics (like myself) or atheists and they piss all over my jubilant christmas spirit because whatever according to them the "birth of christ" signified the commancement of the systematic purge of the dodecatheon followers and the destruction of old temples and their replacement by proto christian onces followed by the oppresive character of the monotheistic religion the yoke of the clergy on the hellenic light the obstructive essence of orthodoxy in the progress and establishment of libertarian traditions and other crap like that, well it gets a bit old.

          I mean, Merry Christmas you dope. (unless circumstances dictate otherwise)

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          • #20
            Mmm. . .seasoned greetings.
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            • #21
              hmm, isn't christmass a pagan thing

              it's all in good faith and if some dude from the other side of the world said to me "have a happy gufxerlakrfopiz, or whatever, I'd say thank you.
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              • #22
                It's those pagan catholics!
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                • #23
                  This is stupid and anyone who would actually take the time to complain about a message made in goodwill is an idiot. If someone says "Merry " then just say "Merry " back and leave the store.
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                  • #24
                    The phrase "merry christmas" is just as hollow and annoying as the holliday, if you ask me.
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                    • #25
                      Do you always have to be so outwardly jaded and cynical, or have you ever thought it would be nice to let other people enjoy something for once rather than whining about it?

                      I swear, half the time I see you post in a thread it's some angsty cynical comment...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Asher
                        Do you always have to be so outwardly jaded and cynical, or have you ever thought it would be nice to let other people enjoy something for once rather than whining about it?

                        I swear, half the time I see you post in a thread it's some angsty cynical comment...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Vesayen


                          EXCEPT that Chanuka has nothing to do with love and inclusion, it commemorates a military victory ~ 2,000 years ago and the reclaiming of the temple.....
                          A quote I heard once, don't know who said it. "A short summary of all Jewish holidays: They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat!"

                          The only reason Chanuka gets any press in because it happens to coincide with Christmas and the New Year and all those other winter holidays. It's actually not a very important holiday in the Jewish faith.

                          As far as this goes, I think some people want to be offended by what they hear. I'm an atheist, mostly, but I'm not offended by Merry Christmas. I try to remember the spirit of the holiday, and the fact that two thousand years ago, a great person was born (though it wasn't December 25th). That, we should all be able to appreciate.
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                          • #28
                            Christmas isn't religious at all to me, it's simply a family holiday.
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                            • #29
                              Another symptom of the secularization of Christmas. It all started with using X-mas. The subliminal/subconscious inferral that the Christ part of Christmas can be substituted as in an algebraic equation.

                              Ahhh.... for the olden days when you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a nice Nativity scene.
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                              • #30
                                Only 9 more days to do you evil pagan ritualistic shopping! AAAARGH!

                                Pah! It's not like I have the money to buy everyone presents, not after shelling out 30 euros for Ptw

                                I'd just like to piss off some special people before I go:

                                "Have a very happy [ insert exclusive pagan/monotheistic/athiest celebration here ] !!!"

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