Oh my God

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Sava


You obviously don't pay attention to these forums. I'm the farthest thing from a bible thumping right winger. If anything, its spoken like a good, moral person who isn't going to blow sunshine up someone's 4ss. Zylka, while morally bankrupt, needs to make a responsible decision here. All that matters is the welfare of that little girl to be.

ps.. you don't need religion to have morals... and likewise, many religious people have no morals.

You obviously missed the sarcasm. Hypocrite that you are, you stepped right in the same mind set that you accuse the right wingers of.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
F*ck you, Sava! Zylka is going through a tough time now, he doesn't need those sorts of tirades like you made in your first post. He doesn't need your judgments that he is completely irresoponsible or has no common sense. That added and helped in no way.

I have every right to tell him how stupid his actions were. And I did offer constructive advice. That little girl should be the entire focus of his actions, because from what he's told us, historically, he selfishly has not given any thought about anyone else other then himself based upon his actions. I'm not going to judge or berade Zylka anymore. I've said what I'm going to say and I'm not going to stoop to your level by using profanity and insulting him.

ZYlka: You are now responsible for another human being. Get your act together and give her every opprotunity to have a good life.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Sava
Zylka, while morally bankrupt

Sava... if you are just going to keep up these personal attacks on Zylka... I would suggest you find another site to post at.

[SlowwHand]

Oh, sure. Protect Zylka.

[Shi Huangdi]

Sava, for whatever reason, has chosen to reply to me with a PM. Because of forum rules, I can't say what he said. So I will just make the general statement that Zylka has gotten himself in a really tough situation, and that I believe we should show compassion and empathy for him. I also do not belive there is much point in passing judgement on him since the act is already done and attacking his past actions will not do any good.



Edit: Ok, I see he has publicly replied too. I don't think telling Zylka he is stupid will do any good and that it isn't constructive in any way.

[Sava]

I apologize for that statement. His actions are morally bankrupt. I meant to assign that idea to his actions rather than the person. I was wrong in that assertion and I apologize. I just hope you are going to warn Shi Huangdi for this statement

F*ck you, Sava

While I did pass judgement, I want to stress that I'm simply not flaming Zylka. He has a responsibility to that baby, and I just want to make it perfectly clear that his priorities need to change.

[Ming]

Sava... saying his actions are morally bankrupt is just as bad... It is still a personal attack. You are one post away from a very long restriction.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Sava, for whatever reason, has chosen to reply to me with a PM. Because of forum rules, I can't say what he said. So I will just make the general statement that Zylka has gotten himself in a really tough situation, and that I believe we should show compassion and empathy for him. I also do not belive there is much point in passing judgement on him since the act is already done and attacking his past actions will not do any good.



Edit: Ok, I see he has publicly replied too. I don't think telling Zylka he is stupid will do any good and that it isn't constructive in any way.

I PMed you because you swore at me. In life, when you make bad decisions, you have to expect judgement. I'm not going to discuss this further because it's simply spamming up this thread and not helping Zylka or his daughter to be.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I have no advice to give. I don't have to worry about such things.

But to be perfectly honest, I have a little doubt as to the honesty of this--he's jerked our chains before many times. Little boys who cry wolf...

you ever see junior? think less medical and more gay.

the moral is always use a condom, and always pay your rent and don't be late for work and never break the law cause if you F*CK UP....

YOU'RE ALL ALONE.

first off theres always abortion. ignore the flames. i'm really against it myself but hey, you're a canadian and it's all willy nilly liberal up there. does the girl want the baby? does she want her now? you've expressed that "it's too early" for you. how do both of you feel on the issue?

you said in 5 months, meaning the baby is 4 months, meaning second trimester. you've got what looks like a human being in there. i'm not going to preach or anything to you, i'm not goign to debate where life begins and if the fetus is a person. you dont need that. just remember your options and their consequences.

The truth is harsh. you f*cked up and now you've got to face the equally harsh consequences.

good luck to you Z. if at all possible you should try to stay in school and take some job to get you guys by. you and your wife (i'm assuming you're going to marry her) could both get jobs and try to work out a schedule that doesnt leave the kid with a nanny for 6 hours (that happened to my brother, don't do it). is your girl in college too? if you're not going to get married you do have a responsibility here, and you should pay up.

whats the parents suitation? do they know? do you think they'd be helpful, economically and with raising the child?

sigh... i'm almost glad i'm a sober virgin.

[Timexwatch]

Zylka:

Do not, under any circumstances, pay any money or take responsibility until you have a paternity test. It's cynical, but it's a reality today that sometimes men will get screwed in matters like this.

If you are the father, then do what you need to.

If you aren't, get as far away as possible from her and assume no responsibility either morally or financially. It sounds harsh, but the family law system is stacked against men and if you take a big part of the kid's life, you will be on the hook for 18 years.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ming
Sava... saying his actions are morally bankrupt is just as bad... It is still a personal attack. You are one post away from a very long restriction.

I apologize, it was not my intent to attack Zylka. I was simply offering my opinion. I only hope that he will take my advice and think of his daughter.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by UberKruX


you ever see junior? think less medical and more gay.

No, don't know what that is. Nor see how it will change my point.

[Inverse Icarus]

arnold schwatrzenagger (iu cant spell those crazy austrian names) got knocked up (genetically)

[loinburger]

In other words, Boris, you'd better be worried.

[Ned]

Z, Just from reading your post I can see you need to start thinking about "us" rather than just about "me."

You should first decide whether you want to marry the girl or just pay child support. If the latter, I would get the paternity test. If the former, asking for a paternity test would really offend the girl.

It will be far less expensive to pay child support than to get married. You may be able to go to school full time and work only part time in this scenario.

If you want to get married, you probably will have to work full time and go to school part time.

Regardless, you now have or will have a daughter. Congratulations.