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Originally posted by Chris 62
I support mandatory service, with the provision it ONLY applies to Floyd.
I support mandatory service, with the provision it ONLY applies to Floyd.
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Should they be able to shoot him if he tries to be Mitty?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Spain got rid of mandatory service some years ago... they found out the maintaining a conscript force was no good. I do not support mandatory service and maintain that it remains voluntary.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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I'll vote for Conscription, because my refusal/resistence would hurt the government more in that situation.
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Either works for me, since they'd kick me out of the military anyway.
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I wonder why?Originally posted by Asher
Either works for me, since they'd kick me out of the military anyway.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Why don't you tell me what the difference between the two is?Originally posted by Osweld
I'll vote for Conscription, because my refusal/resistence would hurt the government more in that situation.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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As long as it's regulation.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Should they be able to shoot him if he tries to be Mitty?I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
i'm an ignorant greek...MarkGComment
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I will be surprised, no, make that shocked, if a veteran comes into this thread and picks conscription.
Veterans are -- by definition -- idiots. If they were intelligent, they'd be civilians and/or deserters.
If you don't like it, you can always leave. I hear the "government" in places like Somalia and Sierra Leone pretty much leaves you alone.
Try Quebec instead. You have to put up with francophones, but, whenever conscription is introduced, the government can't chase down everyone fast enough and you can slip through their evil fingers.
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I'd prefer mandatory service, for EVERYONE....including women. Why don't they have the obligation to serve (in most countries with mandatory service)?
Keep them separate from the men if you want, but gender equality has to amount for something...even more so in times of war, where every soldier counts.DULCE BELLUM INEXPERTISComment
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Geez people... mandatory service does nothing but create a large but highly ineffective force. That is why we got rid of it. If not, I would serving once I finish high school in the Spanish Army.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Better that than being drafted out of nowhere when you're in the middle of [insert some other activity], though.DULCE BELLUM INEXPERTISComment
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A prolonged war. Without intent to offend any Vet, I don't know that I'd even count The Gulf as a war, at least not from American perspective.Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
"In the entire history of the United States, not one war has taken place without conscription. "
The Gulf War? The Afghanistan war?
Israel taking scud hits would have a different viewpoint.
Fez, go away son, ya bother me.
Mandatory service makes options available, both to the services and the service member.
A base is nothing more than a city. Same requirements to keep it running. The military isn't entirely paratroopers and fighter pilots; we've talked of that before. "Optional Service" isn't really necessary.
Some people let the prospect of military duty just tear up their bowels, and without any real reason.
I'm not saying I was any different. My gums got swollen and bleeding from stress, before I reported. But look at them now.
Nice, huh? It wasn't all bad. Mostly good.
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There is no real difference, but why don't you read Slowwhand's explenation on the first page if you are having a hard time understanding what this is about?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why don't you tell me what the difference between the two is?
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Yeah. I eventually sputtered out definitions fairly well.
Thanks, Osweld.
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I despise mandatory service. Immoral, barbaric and brutal. It steals your freedom, you're basically put in jail. You don't have the right to choose where you live, or whatever.
Bad things happen during it. You can get beat up/raped by other serving people, if they grow to dislike you.
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