Should BCS Be Replaced By Playoffs? -- Guynemer's Proposal -- Part II

[Ming]

Well... no matter how the poll is worded , the results are moving back to the way they were in the original poll

[DanS]

We got the mo on our side this time. Even JohnT agrees with us!

[Ming]

The BCS ratings this week show what a total farce they are...

Last week:
Miami = 3.69
OSU = 3.70

And what happens this week... Miami beats a 19th ranked team...

And OSU beats the 9th ranked team:

This week:
Miami = 2.89
OSU = 4.21

All because Washington State lost...



This "computer ranking system" is just unbelievable

[ixnay]

Playoffs work just fine for 1-AA football; they ought to be able to work for 1-A somehow. Any playoff format would be better than the BCS currently in place.

[Kepler]

We should go back to the Bowl system circa 1970. Restore the tradition of the Bowls and screw the national championship (which is an inane concept anyway). Let there be 5-6 major bowl champions (Rose, Cotton, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, maybe another), another 10 minor bowl champions, and send more players and fans home happy. The obsession with the national championship is in microcosm everything that's wrong with college sports.

[Drake Tungsten]

A playoff works fine in D-II because no one watches or cares about the D-II regular season. Do you want D-I to be the same way?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
A playoff works fine in D-II because no one watches or cares about the D-II regular season. Do you want D-I to be the same way?

Tell that to the fans of those schools that "No one watches or cares about the regular season" and they will laugh at you louder than I do.

And as far as 1 - A goes, people pack the stadiums of schools like OSU and Michigan EVERY week when their schools are out of the hunt of the national championship... and they too will laugh at you for saying that a playoff will make them less interested in those regular season games. They come from miles around, camp out in the parking lot... a playoff system isn't going to change that anymore than the current system does.

You are really digging deep to find any argument you can to support your weak position... too bad you are now resorting to arguments that aren't even true

[Drake Tungsten]

Tell that to the fans of those schools that "No one watches or cares about the regular season" and they will laugh at you louder than I do.

Can I just tell it to one fan, or do I have to talk to all five of them?

And as far as 1 - A goes, people pack the stadiums of schools like OSU and Michigan EVERY week when their schools are out of the hunt of the national championship... and they too will laugh at you for saying that a playoff will make them less interested in those regular season games.

Last weekend's OSU-Michigan game would not have been nearly as hyped-up and exciting if a playoff system was in effect. While Michigan wants to beat OSU every year, the fact that Michigan could completely ruin OSU's run at the national title with a victory this year took the game's excitement to the next level.

With a playoff, scenarios like this wouldn't happen anymore. If Michigan pulls off the upset, what really happens? They get some bragging rights, but OSU still probably makes the top-8 of the BCS and goes to the playoff. Don't you see how this takes a lot of the fun out of college football? The fact that every game counts in college football is what makes it great. Your precious playoff would destroy all that.

You are really digging deep to find any argument you can to support your weak position...

At least I don't have to claim that my opponents position is "weak"; I can prove it, unlike a certain person involved in this discussion.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
A playoff works fine in D-II because no one watches or cares about the D-II regular season. Do you want D-I to be the same way?

Elitist Tyrant snobbery showing!!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Last weekend's OSU-Michigan game would not have been nearly as hyped-up and exciting if a playoff system was in effect. While Michigan wants to beat OSU every year, the fact that Michigan could completely ruin OSU's run at the national title with a victory this year took the game's excitement to the next level.

With a playoff, scenarios like this wouldn't happen anymore. If Michigan pulls off the upset, what really happens? They get some bragging rights, but OSU still probably makes the top-8 of the BCS and goes to the playoff. Don't you see how this takes a lot of the fun out of college football? The fact that every game counts in college football is what makes it great. Your precious playoff would destroy all that.

Ummm..... No everyone would have watched to see if Michigan could have staged an upset and gotten themselves into a position where they made it into the top 8.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Last weekend's OSU-Michigan game would not have been nearly as hyped-up and exciting if a playoff system was in effect.

You know NOTHING about Michigan-OSU do you? If they were both unranked it would have been just as exciting. Playoffs have nothing to do with it.

[rah]

Last weekend's OSU-Michigan game would not have been nearly as hyped-up and exciting if a playoff system was in effect.

You know NOTHING about Michigan-OSU do you? If they were both unranked it would have been just as exciting. Playoffs have nothing to do with it.

Yep you are so right. Some people just don't understand. They could probably play each other 5 weeks in a row, and they'd pack that place every week.
There is a reason why the big 10 made them natural opponents and schedule them every year in the last week of conference play.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's the same with Auburn and Alabama. Alabama was forbidden from postseason play, but that didn't make the game any less exciting!

Georgia/Georgia Tech has usually not had any impact on the bowls, because they play in different divisions and they haven't been in a position for the national championship game, but that doesn't mean it was any less intense.

[DanS]

Yeh, I chuckled when I read Drake's Michigan/OSU line. Every other game would have been impacted, but not the Michigan game.

The negative impact of a playoff would creep along. Few of the couple hundred thousand tailgaters at an OSU football game would stop immediately--it's a way of life, after all. OSU would still pack in 105k each game.

But anything that has the possibility of harming those golden eggs over the long run should be evaluated in the harshest light. Say whatever you like about playoffs. They would definitely decrease the importance of a lot of games vis-a-vis the national championship.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

From a rivalry POV what everyone here says is onthe money wrt OSU vs. Michigan. They'll pack the houses everytime they play regardless of game significance.

I'm supposing what Drake was refering to was what the less interested parties (the greater National Audience w/o ties to Michigan or OSU) found appealing in the matchup.

I again assert it would have had national appeal as it would have been a do or die game (plus the fact you can count on both teams hating each other) for Michigan in order to make the playoffs.