Should BCS Be Replaced By Playoffs? -- Guynemer's Proposal -- Part II

[DanS]

Let the fun continue. Last thread we got a good 25% of the vote to keep the current system. Our side definitely exceeded expectations.

So, as they say in Chicago... "Vote early and often".

The old thread...

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65638

[Ming]

Thanks DanS... You desever the honor of starting part II.

And some people didn't think we could get it to 500

But to continue... Drake... have you ever talked to an Athletic Director on this subject... or are you just making this stuff up

[DanS]

To recap, Ming and Imran were ratcheting up the rhetoric when presented with a season in which the BCS has worked a whole lot better than a 4, 8 or 16-team playoff would have.

Ming should know better than to call the bowl sponsors "greedy" and "corrupt." Is he communist or something? Is there anything wrong with promoting products (orange growers, tourism, FedEx, corn chips)?

[Ming]

I have no problem with people making money... I'm a good Capitalist, However, I do have a problem with greedy bloodsucking bastards who have no involvement in the sport deciding who gets a chance at the championship. The determining of that should be made by the NCAA... they should have an 8 team playoff system... AND NOT USE THE BOWL GAMES AT ALL. They should be the ones to make a profit... a profit that will beniffit the schools and not those greedy old farts.

If they want to continue the bowl system... let them, but they can't have the best 8 teams. Other deserving schools can get the day in the sun, make some extra money, make some profits for the old farts and the TV networks... And we can have a true championship series.

[DanS]

I think you are underestimating the fact that decreasing the drama in any regular season game would make it much less profitable for all. Consider OSU and Michigan, who can put 105,000 asses in seats for all home games and have 75% share in their home TV markets.

[DanS]

What would be a travesty is to hear the following, which I heard on a sports talk show this weekend regarding the NFL...

"The regular season is fun, but the real game starts in the playoffs."

[Ming]

Originally posted by DanS
I think you are underestimating the fact that decreasing the drama in any regular season game would make it much less profitable for all. Consider OSU and Michigan, who can put 105,000 asses in seats for all home games and have 75% share in their home TV markets.

They fill those 105 thousand seats when neither team has a chance for the national championship... They just hate each other.

I think you are overestimating the impact. It might actually increase the interest with 8 teams having a chance. Just think how imporant some of the last games could be for those teams on the edge.

It's not like we are talking about The NFL, NBA, or NHL when a high percentage of teams make the playoffs.

8 teams out of 117 or so... The real season will be important. There are still conferences to win, and grudge matches that have been around a long time.

[Drake Tungsten]

Two thirds of Poly votes no! Who's on top now, Ming?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Two thirds of Poly votes no! Who's on top now, Ming?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by DanS
What would be a travesty is to hear the following, which I heard on a sports talk show this weekend regarding the NFL...

"The regular season is fun, but the real game starts in the playoffs."

I still fail to see how the regular season becomes irrelevant under my proposal. Chances are more than one conference loss, and you're toast; often, any conference loss at all and it's all over.


I will be having a simulated tournament, under the guidelines of my proposal, on NCAA Football 2003. Granted, artificial as hell, but it ought to be fun. So, given that it is artificial, a question:

Should I have a pre-tourney Big Ten Championship game, given OSU & Iowa are both 8-0 in the conference? The loser would still be wild card eligible. (And if Iowa wins, I imagine OSU would be a wild card lock, with wins over Michigan, PSU, and Wazzou.) Or, should I just say OSU is Big Ten champ by virtue of a better overall record, and let the chips fall where they may re: Iowa & the wildcard?

[JohnT]

I would like to point out that this poll is worded very differently from the original poll - more vague and misleading, imho.

I think we now have conclusive proof that Dan works for a Democratic polling agency - don't like the response? Change the questions!

[JohnT]

Btw, I'm changing my vote. I don't think the BCS is the greatest system, but I have come to realize that a playoff would not be in the best interest of college ball. Coach Richt made that obvious to me.

[Imran Siddiqui]

a season in which the BCS has worked a whole lot better than a 4, 8 or 16-team playoff would have.

The best claim you can make for the BCS is that it would have worked just as good as a playoff would. It CAN'T work better. Playoffs determine who is the most deserving. Like in the NFL last year. You decide that with polls and you have St. Louis vs. Miami (or something). New England does not factor in, even though they showed on the field they were the best.

"The regular season is fun, but the real game starts in the playoffs."

The regular season is fun, but the real game starts in the Bowls. Happier?

And yes, I despise the current system and want for a playoff no matter what.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I suggest that the folks who are most ardent defenders of the BCS system are those who feel their respective teams have the most to lose in the long run. Afterall those teams who are the so called elite can pick and choose their scheduled opponents and thereby are guaranteed a toughness of schedule bonus. Upstart programs will forever be second class citizens.

Long live the tyrranny of the so-called elite NCAA Div1 teams!!!

[DanS]

"I would like to point out that this poll is worded very differently from the original poll - more vague and misleading, imho."