A good result in Blackburn last night?

[Rage]

Rage - nice tactic to let the thread flow and hope no-one remembers what we were discussing but taking you right back to your statements, please explain how you can claim not to be racist if you believe it is right to deny certain people basic human rights afforded others simply on the basis of their nationality or ethnic background?

Ok, I used to have a friend that was black. I would not deny him basic human rights because of that.
You'll note that I said used to have that is because he did not like going for a drink with my white friends.who were not racsist in any way and didnt treat him as the outsider because he was black) So I realised that he was reluctant and asked him why and he answered exactly:"I just like staying with my own kind thats all" He than went on to tell me that all his friends were black then had the nerve to ask me to go for a drink with his friends!

This incident really opened my eyes there is no denying that you will generally see blacks with black and whites with whites. You hardly ever see them mixed(Where I live anyway) so why try to create a divided society when we have went through centuries of bloodshead just because of religions. We dont what to go through this again. We should put an end to all immigration except for people that can provide valuable services to the country(doctors etc.) so that English cities will not be carved between blacks, Asians and whites.

I say this not because I m racsist but because I do not want my kids or grandkids to grow up in a segragated society like Northern Island, Israel/Palestine and many African countries like Nigeria.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Rothy
One problem there Felch X. We have enough workers in England to fill the Jobs without the immigrants. Just look at some of our big cities , they have unemployment from 5-10% officially, after blair's fiddles, it's a lot more!!

When I was in between jobs i've washed dishes to tide the finances through, but even that wasnt easy to come by!!

What planet do you live on, Rothy? Unemployment is lower than at any time since the 60's.

"After Blair's fiddles"? I think you'll find that it's the same measures that were developed in the mid-80's, and we still ended up with 3.5 million recorded as unemployed then.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Rage


Ok, I used to have a friend that was black. I would not deny him basic human rights because of that.
You'll note that I said used to have that is because he did not like going for a drink with my white friends.who were not racsist in any way and didnt treat him as the outsider because he was black) So I realised that he was reluctant and asked him why and he answered exactly:"I just like staying with my own kind thats all" He than went on to tell me that all his friends were black then had the nerve to ask me to go for a drink with his friends!

This incident really opened my eyes there is no denying that you will generally see blacks with black and whites with whites. You hardly ever see them mixed(Where I live anyway) so why try to create a divided society when we have went through centuries of bloodshead just because of religions. We dont what to go through this again. We should put an end to all immigration except for people that can provide valuable services to the country(doctors etc.) so that English cities will not be carved between blacks, Asians and whites.

I say this not because I m racsist but because I do not want my kids or grandkids to grow up in a segragated society like Northern Island, Israel/Palestine and many African countries like Nigeria.

So to avoid segregation, you think the BNP getting elected is a good thing?

You're weird.

[Rage]

Well I dont really trust the BNP because of their leadership, but a party with most of the official BNP policies then yes I would say that that was a good thing weird or not

[spartak]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


So to avoid segregation, you think the BNP getting elected is a good thing?

You're weird.

He isn't just weird, he is in denial.

Rage

The "old I had a black friend once" story is a typical defense for Racists trying to avoid the truth but you still have to accept that if you genuinely believe it is alright to apply a diferent standard of basic human rights on people by virtue of their ethnicity or nationality, you are by definition racist.

Why don't you do yourself the honesty of admitting it and they you can perhaps start to do some soul searching to find out why you hold racist views and perhaps do something you fix your attitude to fellow human beings. Go on try it, its for the best you know. Really.

[spartak]

Ran out of excuses Rage?

[Rage]

Excuses? I dont need to justify myself to you.

The "old I had a black friend once" story is a typical defense for Racists trying to avoid the truth but you still have to accept that if you genuinely believe it is alright to apply a diferent standard of basic human rights on people by virtue of their ethnicity or nationality, you are by definition racist.

I think you've got the defination of racsism wrong.
I believe a racist to be a person who hates another culture for no reason or someone who views someone of a different race as inferior.

However if you view racism as not wanting your kids to grow up in a segragated society, or in a society where their native land has been invaded then I guess I may fit that discription.

Africans are doing exactly what we done to them centuries ago. In about 100 years whites will cease to be the majority in their own land-it is happening all over Europe.
You cant tell me that any of the African countries would allow whites to outnumber them in their own coutries.

You talk about me denying them rights, well that is their right-to live in a country which they can practice their own culture without fear of having their land stolen by whites or their jobs taking by whites. These are our rights also.
There are obviously a lot of people in Blackburn who share my so called "racist" views. What would you do to the councillors I wonder? Throw them out, call them racists because they do not share the same political views as you do? Fine democracy we live in isnt it.

[MikeH]

What's wrong with white people not being in the majority?

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Rage
Excuses? I dont need to justify myself to you.



I think you've got the defination of racsism wrong.
I believe a racist to be a person who hates another culture for no reason or someone who views someone of a different race as inferior.

However if you view racism as not wanting your kids to grow up in a segragated society, or in a society where their native land has been invaded then I guess I may fit that discription.

Africans are doing exactly what we done to them centuries ago. In about 100 years whites will cease to be the majority in their own land-it is happening all over Europe.
You cant tell me that any of the African countries would allow whites to outnumber them in their own coutries.

You talk about me denying them rights, well that is their right-to live in a country which they can practice their own culture without fear of having their land stolen by whites or their jobs taking by whites. These are our rights also.
There are obviously a lot of people in Blackburn who share my so called "racist" views. What would you do to the councillors I wonder? Throw them out, call them racists because they do not share the same political views as you do? Fine democracy we live in isnt it.

If i said the same thing about people with blue eyes swamping my town you would think I was being stupid as are you

[MikeH]

We'll all be interbred and a kind of light brown shade by then anyway.

[Rage]

Nobody ever defines a people by their eyes however the same can not be said about skin colour. As I said earlier whites and blacks feel more comfortable when they are with people of the same race-Can anyone truthfully deny that?

[Rage]

An article about multi culturism on the BNP website:

I am 17, and have been a member of the BNP for the last year. I fully
support the policies and ideals of the party. However I am not, as the mass
media would have the public believe, a 'Racist'. I am a proud nationalist. I
am proud of the history of our great country. I do not believe that the
British people should have to take second place to immigrants in our own
country as the Labour government would have it. Our ancestors developed our
country and the rest of the world up to a point where Britain is still one
of the strongest and most influential countries in the world today.

Multiculturalism mean always having to say that you're sorry. Leaders of
Labour and Liberal Democrats along with other anti-identity left wing
parties queued up to prostrate themselves before the altar of
multiculturalism, sacrificing our national identity and prosperity in the
process. The lengths to which politicians and opinion formers have gone to
promote tolerance and restraint towards 'British' Muslims since September 11
have been extraordinary. Ignoring the fact that the problem lies in the
fundamental and extremist nature of the Muslim faith. The evidence for this?
- simply look at the young Muslims who attempted to stir up religious and
Anti-British hatred on the streets of places like Oldham and others
volunteering to fight for the Taliban. It is a favoured tactic of the
fascist left to deny this evidence as the work of an 'extremist minority',
whereas, in reality such actions are a fundamental part of the Muslim faith.
If you agree with them, if you don't sign up to their agenda, you are damned
as a Racist or a Nazi.

Multiculturalism means tolerating a mosque named after Saddam Hussein in
the middle of our second largest city but banning the Union Jack on the
grounds that it is 'offensive' to minorities. It means free speech for Mad
Mullahs burning our flag in Regent's park and vowing death to Britain but
'No platform for Racists' for those who beg to differ.

Multiculturalism means the BBC banning 'Land of Hope and Glory' and 'Rule
Britannia' from the proms and the World Service TV ruling that it is
'inappropriate' for presenters to wear poppies. It means worshipping all
other cultures and traditions other than those of the majority. It means
teaching African studies but ignoring British history in schools. It means
denigrating our ancestor's achievements and making children ashamed of their
country's past.

Multiculturalism results in the insulting contents of the millennium dome
and British Airways scrapping the Union Jack and covering its tailplanes in
ethnic scribble. Multiculturalism is nothing less than a ruthless, concerted
assault on the glue that binds our society together. It is the patronising
weapon which the facist left. The products of law schools and teacher
training colleges, use to divide and rule and oppress the majority.

White Europeans have a lot to be proud of as the creators of modern
civilisation. Is it right that police officer, trying to do their job, fear
arresting non-white criminals on the grounds of being branded Racist? Even
when it had been proven by government studies that non-whites are more
likely to commit a crime?

It is up to the enlightened ones, who can see past the lies of the mass
media to put a stop to this progressive deterioration. We must halt the evil
of Multiculturalism before our National freedom, prosperity and identity are
lost in a haze of Leftist propaganda.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Rage
Nobody ever defines a people by their eyes however the same can not be said about skin colour. As I said earlier whites and blacks feel more comfortable when they are with people of the same race-Can anyone truthfully deny that?

They may not, but it is as valid to do so because they are both bollocks

[Rage]

You may believe that but a lot of people dont.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Rage
An article about multi culturism on the BNP website:

I am 17, and have been a member of the BNP for the last year. I fully
support the policies and ideals of the party. However I am not, as the mass
media would have the public believe, a 'Racist'. I am a proud nationalist. I
am proud of the history of our great country. I do not believe that the
British people should have to take second place to immigrants in our own
country as the Labour government would have it. Our ancestors developed our
country and the rest of the world up to a point where Britain is still one
of the strongest and most influential countries in the world today.

Multiculturalism mean always having to say that you're sorry. Leaders of
Labour and Liberal Democrats along with other anti-identity left wing
parties queued up to prostrate themselves before the altar of
multiculturalism, sacrificing our national identity and prosperity in the
process. The lengths to which politicians and opinion formers have gone to
promote tolerance and restraint towards 'British' Muslims since September 11
have been extraordinary. Ignoring the fact that the problem lies in the
fundamental and extremist nature of the Muslim faith. The evidence for this?
- simply look at the young Muslims who attempted to stir up religious and
Anti-British hatred on the streets of places like Oldham and others
volunteering to fight for the Taliban. It is a favoured tactic of the
fascist left to deny this evidence as the work of an 'extremist minority',
whereas, in reality such actions are a fundamental part of the Muslim faith.
If you agree with them, if you don't sign up to their agenda, you are damned
as a Racist or a Nazi.

Multiculturalism means tolerating a mosque named after Saddam Hussein in
the middle of our second largest city but banning the Union Jack on the
grounds that it is 'offensive' to minorities. It means free speech for Mad
Mullahs burning our flag in Regent's park and vowing death to Britain but
'No platform for Racists' for those who beg to differ.

Multiculturalism means the BBC banning 'Land of Hope and Glory' and 'Rule
Britannia' from the proms and the World Service TV ruling that it is
'inappropriate' for presenters to wear poppies. It means worshipping all
other cultures and traditions other than those of the majority. It means
teaching African studies but ignoring British history in schools. It means
denigrating our ancestor's achievements and making children ashamed of their
country's past.

Multiculturalism results in the insulting contents of the millennium dome
and British Airways scrapping the Union Jack and covering its tailplanes in
ethnic scribble. Multiculturalism is nothing less than a ruthless, concerted
assault on the glue that binds our society together. It is the patronising
weapon which the facist left. The products of law schools and teacher
training colleges, use to divide and rule and oppress the majority.

White Europeans have a lot to be proud of as the creators of modern
civilisation. Is it right that police officer, trying to do their job, fear
arresting non-white criminals on the grounds of being branded Racist? Even
when it had been proven by government studies that non-whites are more
likely to commit a crime?

It is up to the enlightened ones, who can see past the lies of the mass
media to put a stop to this progressive deterioration. We must halt the evil
of Multiculturalism before our National freedom, prosperity and identity are
lost in a haze of Leftist propaganda.

frankly that is all rubbish, but I would say anyone who starts off saying they are proud of our history are taking a selective view of it and are ignoring the bits which a) show the Uk to be a complete bastard and b) which shows the UK has always had alot of immigration.