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  • #31
    Yes, about Bulgarians that's wrong.

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    • #32
      Why are Greeks there at all
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      • #33
        And btw. why are Bulgarians lumped together with "yugoslavic" peoples?
        well they are related to the macedonians who were part of yugoslavia... ah I'm on thin ice here

        yeah and they're all south slavic aren't they?
        CSPA

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        • #34
          100% English. My family goes back generations from the north, all, it seems, working class.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by paiktis22

            They all come from there. Turks, Finns and Hungarians.
            There's no proof that Finns and Hungarians are of the same ethnic origin, Paki. That's mystery no one has yet been able to solve as there's so many options and little proof. Only the roots of Finno-Ugric languages have been traced back (Uralic languages).
            "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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            • #36
              Nah, there's proof. They all come from Turkish/mongol tribes.


              Bulgarians come from prot-bulgarians and other ethnic groups which appeared on the scene around the 6th century maybe a bit sooner.

              It's all in the Byzantium archives.

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              • #37
                50% italian
                50% romanian
                I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                • #38
                  Damn evil euro-centric pool
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by paiktis22
                    Nah, there's proof. They all come from Turkish/mongol tribes.
                    That's even less proved. Some might suggest that the tribe of the "Melanchlainen", which Herodotos mentions in his Scythia-account might be the proto-Finnugrians (OK, OK, this is based only on the ending "-lainen"...)
                    Yet, Finno-Ugric languages are too different from the Turk-mongolic family to assume a closer genetic relation.


                    Bulgarians come from prot-bulgarians and other ethnic groups which appeared on the scene around the 6th century maybe a bit sooner.
                    That's true, although the substrate of rural populace surely continued to be mostly Slavic. The "upper-class" Bulgarian warrior caste then acculturated to the Slavic substrate by adapting their language.
                    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                    • #40
                      That's true, although the substrate of rural populace surely continued to be mostly Slavic. The "upper-class" Bulgarian warrior caste then acculturated to the Slavic substrate by adapting their language.
                      lumping them together with the yugoslavs wasn't that bad then?
                      CSPA

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                      • #41
                        Warner, nope.

                        Herodotus mentions have nothing to do with fino-ugric-turkish.

                        It was just some other ethnic groups living there at that time.


                        That's just an artificial later attempt to give "historical depth" to finougrishturkish which came from the same ethnic group and assimilated what herodotus talks about which were nothing in comparison with the finougrish turkish.

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                        • #42
                          Only Jewish, at least for the 5 generations I know about.
                          "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                          • #43
                            Anything more than that Eli? There are Jews in lots of countries... all of your family's past generations lived in Israel?
                            Dom Pedro II - 2nd and last Emperor of the Empire of Brazil (1831 - 1889).

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                            • #44
                              I only voted for the major bits: (Approximately)

                              56.25% English
                              25% Italian (Sicilian)
                              12.5% Croat

                              Apparently there are bits of Scot and Swede in me somewhere as well to cover the remaining 6.75%.

                              -Arrian
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Wernazuma III
                                And btw. why are Bulgarians lumped together with "yugoslavic" peoples?
                                Bulgaria was part of Great Serbia. Crushed by the Turks in 1389.

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