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  • #31
    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    We aren't the only people who lie, you know.
    I knew that would yank your chain. I was referring more to the concept of false treaties and agreements as tools of war via diplomatic deception.

    Actually, we don't know whether the DPRK has nukes. They only say they have them. Where were the test detonations? So much can go wrong with a bomb that until you blow one up, you don't know if it will work.
    Unfortunately, there's a tough little problem - we don't want to see their "test" occur 4000 feet AGL over Seoul or Tokyo.

    Their current waffling about "rights" etc. is all pretty meaningless - I really doubt the DPRK government has nothing better to do than rhetorical exercises over hypotheticals.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sprayber
      Where did they test theirs?
      IIRC, the Negev desert in Southern Israel.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
        I knew that would yank your chain.




        I was referring more to the concept of false treaties and agreements as tools of war via diplomatic deception.


        The US has done its fair share of those, like the treaty "temporarily" dividing Vietnam that it knew it had no intention of honoring.
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        • #34
          If North Korea has the right to nokes then so does South Korea. I think we should secretly promise the North Koreans that we will give nuclear weapons to South Korea if they develop their own bomb.
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          • #35
            Che:

            Israel has never gone as far as actually testing its nuclear weapons. It likes to be as mysteriou as possible with its arsenal. The diamona nuclear complex is in the Negev desert, if that is what your mind might be thnking of.

            Nk is big enough to test a small bomb anyway, and ocne you test a few basic designs you are home free. Its not like they are goign to make fission bombs.
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            • #36
              The RoK is a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, as is the US. We are bound by law to place sanctions on any country we know has developed weapons since the signing of the treaty. This is why the US officially doesn't know that Israel has the bomb.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by GePap
                Che:

                Israel has never gone as far as actually testing its nuclear weapons. It likes to be as mysteriou as possible with its arsenal.
                Israel does like mystery. But Israel tested off of a South African island in a joint operation with the apartheid forces.

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                • #38
                  Now, c'mon folks. Ya'll know that North Korea and Iraq are upstanding citizens of the world and that they will take good care of whatever arsenals they have and wouldn't even *think* of using them against a non-aggressor.

                  Why, those weapons are just posturing tools, nuthin' more! Blackmail, that's all! They'd never actually use them (**discreetly pushes Kurd corpse beneath rug**)!

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                  • #39
                    NO country should have nukes, besides it's a waste of pefectly good Uranium or Plutonium for power plants. We shouldn't waste something that is rarer and more expensive than gold and instead use it for the world's benefit?

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                    • #40
                      Do they have the right to have Nuclear weapons? Yes. Should we make it abundantly clear that they will be treated like dogs and that the current reproachment & economic aid will cease unless they give them up? Yes.
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                      • #41
                        Can I have some nukes, too? I promise not to misuse them, really.

                        I mean, if the US has them, why can't anyone else have them? It's completely self serving to insist that one's own country is the only one responsible enough *coughNagasakicough* to have a nuclear arsenal.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          We aren't the only people who lie, you know.
                          Communists aren't the only people to lie but they sure do lie a whole lot more then your average bear.

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                          • #43
                            According to Joong-Ang Il Bo, the US is going to stop heavy fuel oil shipments after the next one, so that they can make other arrangements and prevent a humanitarian disaster.

                            Also, the NKs are now trying to retreat from the position that they have a working bomb. Naturally, no one believes them...

                            On, and Kim is trying to rebuild his alliance with Russia and the NK 'special economic zone' is being revamped...
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                            • #44
                              I think the more interesting question is whether NK will continue to exist unless it abandons its nuclear weapons program.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Oerdin


                                Communists aren't the only people to lie but they sure do lie a whole lot more then your average bear.


                                This coming from an American...

                                Anyway, every country should have nukes. Because remember, nukes don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people!
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