Racial controversy

[Hueij]

Just logged in so I missed the start of this thread...

Why are people posting in yet another Cali race-thread?

[Ramo]

Good point, Hueij.

[Jac de Molay]

Because we are all gluttons for punishment.

[Japher]

I'm out!

[gsmoove23]

"But you can say that a multi-ethnical society breeds violence"

Good one, lets start a new thread about how many inane things you can say with statistics.

prejudice and racism certainly aren't interchangeable. Prejudice is a much wider term regarding coming to conclusions, no matter what they are, about people, places, things etc.. without the benefit of experience or knowledge of those people, place... A much more general term.(my own definition, does anyone disagree significantly?)

Racism deals with conclusions specifically based on race. Believing that a person is x% more likely to do x because of whatever group he might be in, even if you're allowing for individual difference, is a prejudice. This prejudice can very easily, but not always lead to discrimination. Much like marijuana is a gateway drug... DOH! didn't mean to say that.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Because it's the forum equivalent of a sympathy ****.

[Japher]

I'm out!

[Jac de Molay]

Yet, if a greater number of specific race is committing a higher number of crimes than other races, than would it no be safe to conclude that a greater number of that race committing the crimes is more subjected to the "myriad of reasons and causalities" that cause them to commit the crime?

But they're not any more or less subject to the same causalities because of their racial makeup. That is absolutely baseless from a scientific perspective.

Again, stripped of all negative influences and pressures, you can't say certain races are more prone to commit crimes than others.

[Guynemer]

Remember when Cali said he was going to end all his race-baiting trolls?

Stop laughing. He really said he'd do that! Honest!

[MrFun]

We're back to your favorite subject, Calster.

Anyway, racist government policy combined with social racism has historically, denied people equal opportunity based on race, and it still continues today. Companies discriminate based on race, but are not caught, because they invent a false, trumped up reason.

Racist discrimination perpetuates poverty, due to lack of opportunities to improve one's livliehood. Poverty, in turn, increases the possibility of impoverished people to turn to criminal activity, regardless what race you are.

So, fundamentally, racist discrimination has caused many individuals within the minority groups to turn to criminal activity, not race itself.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by MrFun
We're back to your favorite subject, Calster.

Anyway, racist government policy combined with social racism has historically, denied people equal opportunity based on race, and it still continues today. Companies discriminate based on race, but are not caught, because they invent a false, trumped up reason.

Racist discrimination perpetuates poverty, due to lack of opportunities to improve one's livliehood. Poverty, in turn, increases the possibility of impoverished people to turn to criminal activity, regardless what race you are.

So, fundamentally, racist discrimination has caused many individuals within the minority groups to turn to criminal activity, not "race" itself.

I think it should be changed to this:

Anyway, "racist" government policy combined with social "racism" has historically, denied people equal opportunity based on race, and it still continues today. Companies discriminate based on "race", but are not caught, because they invent a false, trumped up reason.

"racist" discrimination perpetuates poverty, due to lack of opportunities to improve one's livliehood. Poverty, in turn, increases the possibility of impoverished people to turn to criminal activity, regardless what "race" you are.

So, fundamentally, "racist" discrimination has caused many individuals within the minority groups to turn to criminal activity, not "race" itself.


At least according to others in this thread, since we are all the same "race".

ACK!

[Dr Strangelove]

It is established fact that the black race has more genetic diversity than the others simply because it is much older.

There are nations in the Western Hemisphere that are primarily black which have a much lower violent crime rate than that of US whites or asians, yet the black majority of these nations came from the same areas of Africa as US blacks.

[Carver]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
There are nations in the Western Hemisphere that are primarily black which have a much lower violent crime rate than that of US whites or asians, yet the black majority of these nations came from the same areas of Africa as US blacks.

I hate to feed Cali and the couple other rightwing race-baiters but...

The academic performance disparity is also absent in most Caribbean nations.

Now that is the only post I will make in this threadola crapola.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Boddington's
Sampling fallacy.

How and why?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by tinyp3nis
There is not enough evidence for me to decide if all races are equal. They seem to be pretty much the same, but pretty much doesn't cut it here, because that is not the point here right? Believing something just because it seems so nice and fair is just lame.

What makes you think there are separate races? Establish that, before we start debating on if some races are better than others.