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Floyd, you asked me why I was against the lottery. Here's why:

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  • #16
    I'm against the lottery, but I think that it should still exist. If stupid people want to piss their money away, I say let them. Funding schools is a good idea because at least some good is done with that money.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #17
      But, Sava, the lottery doesn't really fund schools. Sure: the money is earmarked for schools, but, as I said, the schools tend to receive less funding from the general budget.

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      • #18
        Calling people who buy into lotteries "stupid" is unfair. Probabilities don't come to most people intuitively. They shouldn't be punished for their ignorance.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #19
          Its' better than nothing I suppose. I'm more of a social liberal. Gambling should be legal, taxed, and used to pay for public programs like health care and education. They should do the same thing with prostitution and marijuana.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ramo
            Calling people who buy into lotteries "stupid" is unfair. Probabilities don't come to most people intuitively. They shouldn't be punished for their ignorance.
            Ignorance should be punished at every opprotunity.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              Maybe we should tax people who don't have degrees in physics.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #22
                What does physics have to do with probabilities?

                It's not like innocent people are randomly being punished. They are going out and buying lottery tickets. They are taking an active role in their own ignorance.

                I don't cry for the Lemmings that throw themselves off the cliffs.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #23
                  I'll buy a lottery ticket if I'm at the gas station and I have a dollar change, why not?

                  Does this mean I am stupid Sava?

                  ACK!
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #24
                    What does physics have to do with probabilities?
                    It has to do with ignorance. As in, "Ignorance should be punished at every opprotunity."

                    It's not like innocent people are randomly being punished. They are going out and buying lottery tickets. They are taking an active role in their own ignorance.
                    So? Is that supposed to make it ok.
                    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                    -Bokonon

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                    • #25
                      You lost me Ramo... people who do stupid things because they are ignorant deserve what they get. I'm not saying we should just shoot all ignorant people or anything like that. I knew the lottery was bullsh1t when I was in 6th grade. If any adult can't see it for what it is, then they deserve to lose their money.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ramo
                        Maybe we should tax people who don't have degrees in physics.
                        If the tax money goes to people with physics degrees then I'm all for it.
                        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                        • #27
                          Ramo... people who do stupid things because they are ignorant deserve what they get.
                          The government isn't merely letting it happen; it's entirely responsible for it happening.

                          I knew the lottery was bullsh1t when I was in 6th grade.
                          And how did you realize this? Maybe you were taught the math so you could explain why yourself. Maybe the reason why why lottery was bull**** was explained to you. Maybe somebody who you thought had intellectual authority told you it was bull****. Maybe you relied upon your intuition.

                          What if someone didn't have such benefit? What if you didn't have such benefit? Do you really think you would figure it out yourself?

                          If the tax money goes to people with physics degrees then I'm all for it.
                          Now there's an idea.
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                          -Bokonon

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ramo
                            Calling people who buy into lotteries "stupid" is unfair. Probabilities don't come to most people intuitively. They shouldn't be punished for their ignorance.
                            Punished? Maybe, maybe not. Taxed, hell yes. I would like to see a general ignorance tax to replace most most taxes. Every year every adult takes a super SAT like test, with a culturally diverse background, of course, for the questions like history influenced by such. Your tax is $1000 time the number of questions you miss. By god, you will see people voting for education under thoses circumstanses.
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                            • #29
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                              -Bokonon

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                              • #30
                                Let's stop calling the lottery a tax and start calling it what it really is - stupid people throwing money away voluntarily.

                                Yes, stupid people. Not ignorant people. Unless they are retarded, in the literal sense, they have the capacity to understand that the lottery does not have good odds of winning.

                                Does advertising distort this a bit, or at least attempt to? Absolutely. That's the point of advertising - all advertising. But it doesn't change the basic fact that every normal human has the capability to understand that they do NOT have a good chance to win a lottery.

                                Once we establish that, if they play anyway, there is nothing morally bankrupt about using lottery revenues for funding. It is, as was mentioned earlier, far better than an involuntary system.
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