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  • #31
    I mean really, I don't know much but these things but something that is able to provide everyone somewhat equal wealth doesn't sound like anarchy at all.
    Socialism is half of what anarchism is about. Anarchism without socialism is some bastardized variant of Randism.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
    -Bokonon

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    • #32
      bastardized variant of Randism.
      You say bad word. You try to confuse.

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      • #33

        Bad word? Would you be referring to "bastardized" or "Randism"?
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ramo

          Bad word? Would you be referring to "bastardized" or "Randism"?
          I dunno, what do they mean?

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          • #35
            bastardized = screwed up
            Randism = a certain libertarian capitalist philosophy that has some "interesting" characteristics
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

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            • #36
              anarchy is just the tyranny of chaos
              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ramo
                bastardized = screwed up
                Randism = a certain libertarian capitalist philosophy that has some "interesting" characteristics
                So when the people in this thread talked about anarchism, did they discuss about randism or anarchism then?
                I still don't understand what you mean by anarchism. Democracy that will allow drugs whores and stuff, has no armies? What?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ramo


                  I seriously doubt you have much historical knowledge of anarchist societies
                  I seriously doubt you have much historical knowledge.

                  Yes, yes, yes, we have all had our masturbatorial Lincoln Brigade halcyon days of wine, women, and ringing philosophical discussions late into the night. But unfortunately one day you graduate and then it's time to get a job and realize that "anarchism" is either this year's synonym for "erehwon" or the admirable but silly notion of all 5 year olds at the zoo who want to let the tigers out because "they look so friendly, and it's only those iron bars that make them mad."

                  As for crime: anarchy = no security of property or contract = no investment or research = MASSIVE poverty. So if poverty breeds crime (and I'm with you 100% on that one), then anarchism is the perfect recipe for the most crime-ridden society imaginable.
                  It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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                  • #39
                    I though we were discussing anarchy, not anarchism...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ramo

                      There is absolutely no doubt most crime arises from poverty, directly or indirectly.
                      Then what's Winona Ryder's problem?

                      But you did say 'most'.

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                      • #41
                        So when the people in this thread talked about anarchism, did they discuss about randism or anarchism then?
                        Most people have absolutely no clue what anarchism is, so take your pick. And throw in a bunch of other completely different ideoligies.

                        I mentioned Randism to provide some sort of reference.

                        I still don't understand what you mean by anarchism.
                        Libertarian socialism, to put it succintly. A society with little to no private and public authority. If you want a more extensive explanation, check out writings from Mikhail Bakunin (the guy in my sig), Emma Goldman, Peter Kropotkin, or a number of other people.
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                        -Bokonon

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
                          I though we were discussing anarchy, not anarchism...
                          I'm not a big friend of dictionary, keep confusing me and I'm gone

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Anunikoba


                            Then what's Winona Ryder's problem?

                            Poverty of talent.
                            It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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                            • #44
                              I'm not a big friend of dictionary, keep confusing me and I'm gone
                              Anarchy as in chaos, not anarchism as in the political philosophy.

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                              • #45
                                Yes, yes, yes, we have all had our masturbatorial Lincoln Brigade halcyon days of wine, women, and ringing philosophical discussions late into the night. But unfortunately one day you graduate and then it's time to get a job and realize that "anarchism" is either this year's synonym for "erehwon" or the admirable but silly nation of all 5 year olds at the zoo who want to let the tigers out because "they look so friendly, and it's only those iron bars that make them mad."


                                As for crime: anarchy = no security of property or contract
                                Nope. I'm an anarchist as I've already mentioned, and I support police, courts, and prisons.

                                As for those that don't, in a socialist society, there would be minimal risk of properties and contracts not being protected.

                                then anarchism is the perfect recipe for the most crime-ridden society imaginable
                                Yes, that must be why the societies I mentioned were so crime-ridden.
                                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                                -Bokonon

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