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Where and when did slavs originated?Periodista : A proposito del escudo de la fe, Elisa, a mí me sorprendía Reutemann diciendo que estaba dispuesto a enfrentarse con el mismísimo demonio (Menem) y después terminó bajándose de la candidatura. Ahí parece que fuera ganando el demonio.
Elisa Carrio: No, porque si usted lee bien el Génesis dice que la mujer pisará la serpiente.Comment
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Oh Vergina! Sorry for my ignorance! That's about 10km from my village!!!
So long...Excellence can be attained if you Care more than other think is wise, Risk more than others think is safe, Dream more than others think is practical and Expect more than others think is possible.
Ask a Question and you're a fool for 3 minutes; don't ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life! Chinese Proverb
Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago. Warren BuffetComment
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Apparently the following song is popular when British teams play Greek teams.
"You can stick your Elgin Marbles up your arse.
You can stick your Elgin Marbles up your arse.
You can stick your Elgin Marbles
you can stick your Elgin Marbles
you can stick your Elgin Marbles up your arse."
It's a disgrace. It's quite funny, though.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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never heard of it....Co-Founder, Apolyton Civilization Site
Co-Owner/Webmaster, Top40-Charts.com | CTO, Apogee Information Systems
giannopoulos.info: my non-mobile non-photo news & articles blogComment
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Coincidently, a British team will play with a Greek team tomorrow.
But I guess that Olympiakos will not get any marbles up their ass by ManU. 4 or 5 goals perhaps, but no marbles...
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George OrwellComment
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paiktis22 asked my to post a response to my comment since he can't (Originally posted by Rogan Josh
Since I just came back from Greece I have to comment on this.
One of the things which struck me when looking at the statues of all their Gods/Generals/whatever is that none of them looked Greek. I mean, take your average Greek and stand them next to one of these statues and you will notice that they look racially different.
In fact the statues look much more northern European than anything else (although that correspondance isn't 100% either). Thinking about it more, I noticed that Greeks look a lot more like ethnic turks than than I had ever realised, and I was also struck by their modern culture, which seems rather turk influenced too.
This is hardly surprising considering Greece was part of the Ottoman Empire for so long.
I don't think this is a bad thing - their women are very pretty
- but I think it makes it a bit rich to claim ancient Greece as their own.
Is he banned??)
paiktis22's response
The ancient Greek statues were made after models of «perfect» males/females. Their dimensions and characterists exist in Greece but of course not in every Greek person.
The icons and images on the vases which provide much more information (colour, shpae etc) and are muich more numerous clearly resemble Greeks (or south Europeans in General). Black hair, Tanned skin etc.
That does not mean that modern Greeks are 100% anceint Greeks (who can claim that about any nation, even "newer" ones) but the ressemblance is indeed striking both in scultpures and in vases' icons.
The culture of modern Greece IS heavily influenced by the Ottomans and most of its «ottoman» elements are considered big drawbacks. (public services inadequacy, clientelle politics etc etc)Comment
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It is true. Most (if not all) modern Greek cutural elements are directly linked to Turkish ones.
SO WHAT?
DOES THAT MAKES US LESS GREEKS? Modern France is based on the Roman Empire and its customs. So i guess Frenchmen have no culture of their own.....
And paiktis i don't think that public services inadequacy and bad politics have their base on the Ottoman Empire. Rather it is a Greek "innovation".
It is my firm belief that violence has solved more problems than it has created. Therefore we should make our claims backed by (if not implemented) by force."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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It is my firm belief that violence has solved more problems than it has created. Therefore we should make our claims backed by (if not implemented) by force.
your firm belief is wrongComment
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Why?."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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why do you think we end wars with negotiations, and not end negotiations with wars?
I could explain it to you in more depth, but that would be threadjacking, the topic is Macedonians
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Skopjans.
Or Slavomacedonians."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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I think the west frieze marbles(I won't deign to call them the Elgin marbles) should be returned to Greece, its where they belong.
The analogy would be if the Nazis occupied Britain and the (say) Americans did a deal with them to buy and deport Stonehenge. Its a disgrace.
Besides I think the Parthenon should be restored, what do greeks thing of that?
"Argghhhh.." The real last words of Constantine XII Dragash.Res ipsa loquiturComment
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Palaiologue was his name. Dragasis i think was the family name of his wife.
Upon seeing the Turks entering from the breaches he cried and prayed to God to protect his people and the Empire. Then he cried "All who want to die, follow me!!!". Many did.
What happened next is a matter of debate. After much slaughter the Emperor was left alone facing the Turks. Upon seeing a Turk raising his sword to take his head he cried "Can not there a Christian be found to take off my head?". He then fell, stricken by the Turk.
Other versions claim the Emperor was slain from behind etc....
Whatever his final words were, they certainly were not "Argghhh...".
This man was the last hero of Greece, it is not right to demean his valor like that."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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About the Parthenon:
You are certainly right. Unfortunately the Greek goverment does not see things your way. They use the Acropolis for festivals and stuff, slowly destroying it in the process."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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