The Selfishness of Remaining Childless "For Your Career"

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Just quiz Spink on whatever his parents did. Then do the opposite.

[Alexander's Horse]

If professionals had more kids we'd end up with more stupid teenage depression threads.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by rah



Thanks, for the clarification

Flubber, yes you are correct, I didn't mean to make it sound like a generalization. Especially since both my wife and I are professionals that work a lot of hours, yet believe that we have done a good job raising our daughter. On the other hand, we never had a second child because we were worried about the extra amount of time and money and whether we'd have enough of either. If someone sees that as selfish, they can kiss my ***.

I certainly don't see that as selfish, but just as another symptom of modern society. As Marx himself said (surely will get a bite from the right wingers here ), capitalism reduces everything down to a financial relationship, even the family. All this carrot dangling of the career ladder seems a bit false and contrived to me, but everyone seems to fall for it.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

'For your career' is just a convenient excuse. Those who don't have kids and cite this excuse, simply don't want kids. And if you don't want kids, you shouldn't have them, for those would be some ****ed up kids.

I don't want kids because I have enough responsibilities already, and even though I'd probably be a good parent, I don't want to take the chance that I'm not.

[Ramo]

Why the hell do you care, Stewy?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
'For your career' is just a convenient excuse. Those who don't have kids and cite this excuse, simply don't want kids. And if you don't want kids, you shouldn't have them, for those would be some ****ed up kids.

I don't want kids because I have enough responsibilities already, and even though I'd probably be a good parent, I don't want to take the chance that I'm not.

A sensible approach IMHO-- I have heard the opinion that people who choose not to have children are selfish-- I never could understand that-- The world would be a LOT better place if only those people who truly wanted children, had children . . .

[Jon Miller]

are you not doing that Stewie?

I don't see you having children right now

Jon Miller

[Drake Tungsten]

People who choose not to have children are not selfish. They're misguided.

[Sandman]

I reckon we'll need to grow babies in vats before long.

[Provost Harrison]

Well I would hope to be a father someday, I make quite a good father figure (I am effectively that to my nephew, shame with me working nowadays I don't get to see as much of him I will have to take him swimming on Saturday )

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
People who choose not to have children are not selfish. They're misguided.

Why?

[Jon Miller]

because we need more population

Jon Miller

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
because we need more population

Jon Miller

Again, why?

[Jon Miller]

population (and in particular, well educated and driven population) is what has made all the acheivements the world has today (this is looking at things secularly)

the more people who are born, the more people who can live happy lives, the more geniuses who will be born to advance the human race, the more artists who will be born to create new and interesting art, the more people who will have ideas and wishes which will push the human race into and beyond the 20th century

a civilization or even a nation without population increase is dying

also, the ones who are haiving the least children are the ones who can support the most, but selficiously they live in the past instead of raising children for the human race

Jon Miller

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I can't agree with that. I think that there are more than enough people as it is. Overpopulation is a real issue in most nations. As for me being wealthy enough to afford kids - possibly true, but said kid would then consume more scarce resources the world doesn't have. Things like food, fuel, fresh water, combs...

But aside from all that, I'm not interested in making more people just so 'more people can live happy lives'. If I'm not happy to have a kid, that kid probably won't be happy either...