Time to pack the cop repellant!

[KrazyHorse]

It's not a weak argument. You know which way I want the balance of power (I'm assuming you understand that this is balance between gov & private sector) to swing...and the current method of "globalisation" drives the wrong way.

[KrazyHorse]

Companies have been freed to shop among locales. It provides an artificial penalty for higher taxes (on top of the ones I'm sure you both believe are inherent). It makes government the ***** of the transnats, and I don't like it.

[Sirotnikov]

Che - as long as there is a free parliament and a free media - you act through them. Civil disobedience should be enacted only in extreme cases. For instance, if there's an actual current threat to democracy.

What you're doing , is using civil disobedience to obstruct the talks and planning.

If we use civil disobedience every time we feel like it - why do we need a parliament and media for?

[Promethus]

Siro

You are a poster I generaly like, but the "Mainstream Media" is totaly owned by the corporations. And in this country most of the politications are "Leased" by the corporations (they would never "sell" there vote because they could only do that once.

[Giancarlo]

I would like anybody to propose an alternative to globalization please speak up now...

*silence*

Umm I am waiting...

Go ahead and protest.. sure... but don't cause havoc or problems. If that occurs everybody who takes part should be rounded up and sent to jail for a while.

I completely disagree with the misled anti-US, anti-civilized world, anti-western, anti-capitalist, anti-common sense movement. There just a bunch of movments looking to rip people off.

[blackice]

There just a bunch of movments looking to rip people off.

Thats funny seems that is what globalization is doing...

Back to the IMF (Immoral Monetary fraud) protest and educate it's a global media now. Sooner or later even the back woods people will begin to understand who profits from this...

[Sirotnikov]

Siro

You are a poster I generaly like, but the "Mainstream Media" is totaly owned by the corporations.

How does this contradict you liking me?

And thanks

And in this country most of the politications are "Leased" by the corporations (they would never "sell" there vote because they could only do that once.

Set up your own media why don't you?

Set up a free broadcasting corporation for commies.

And then - you shall become your own huge commie corporation and will take over the world using thier own tools (globalization)!!!

How's my plan?

[KrazyHorse]

All right. Now give us a few billion dollars and we'll do it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Che - as long as there is a free parliament and a free media - you act through them.

Asked and answered!

We have neither a free parliment nor a free media. This is why civil disobedience is necessary.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Frogger
All right. Now give us a few billion dollars and we'll do it.

Its done allready. Why do you think China is trying to control the NET anyway?

[Sirotnikov]

Che - well if your parliament ain't free and your media isn't free - then by all means - HA HA HA!!!


Is it possible that the small insignificant and currupted Israeli parliament is more free than yours?

Is it possible that our media is more free than yours?

In your face - Israeli hating commies

[Sirotnikov]

All right. Now give us a few billion dollars and we'll do it

Start small.

Sell advertisement space to large corporations and tobbaco companies.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher

Yes, indeed, because we all know without these protests most people on Apolyton wouldn't know about the IMF, and now most people on Apolyton think the IMF is evil.



oh conflicting emotions

Once again, you demonstrate the inability to understand a basic concept.

This thread started with a discussion about protests and has led to discussions about globalization. If there had not been any protests then it is highly likely that some computer geeks would never know about the IMF because certain people don't care about what happens to others.

The protests make more people aware of the issues. Some of these people will agree with the protesters, others will not. The awareness has still been raised either way and saying that awareness has been raised does not mean that everyone now hates the IMF.

There exceptions of course. Some people will sit in their daddy's big house, b!tch about the fact that they can't drive daddy's SUV downtown because of them damn protesters and refuse to make any attempt to understand the issues. Not that I am suggesting that this applies to you Asher.

[Sirotnikov]

This thread for some reason made me think of two leftist democrat socialists from different countries bickering: "Our government is bigger than your government!"

[Sirotnikov]

The protests make more people aware of the issues.

Nope - they don't.

Threads make people aware of issues.

Protests make people aware of annoying protestors.

refuse to make any attempt to understand the issues.

You conviniently assume that if they will understand the issue they will take the point of view of the protestors and will also legitimize the acts of civil disobedience occuring in these protests / riots.