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The KDP and PUK are very different from the PKK. Both are much more clan based and nationalist and I've never heard anyone claiming they're Maoist. Even the PKK's mangled ideology is a homebrewn weirdo leftism.
Where do you get the idea ?
MtG:
"I think the "personal" aspect is that Bush and Cheney in particular see red whenever they think of Saddam"
Cheney is a total nutcase. Bush... maybe. Still wouldn't understand why he should be emotional about that.
"That's a pretty good start. Add to that his penchant for invading neighbors who piss him off.... Above all else, it's a competition for influence."
You think there is a wider plan to strategically control the region ? I'm having my doubts, mostly because of the notorious shorttermism in US foreign policy.
"I think the people least likely to be pissed would be the Iraqis, but that would really depend on how the US handles nation building and civil affairs in an occupied Iraq."
I think that will be one big mess. There are lots of unsettled scores, there is no clear contender for power, there is barely a groundwork for democracy, and the Bushies will likely install some military guy as dictator with some pseudodemocratic poopoo around him. Even then there's a likely need for occupation to hold the **** together. After a while everyone and his dog will hate the american occupation troops. And your puppet will try cutting the strings. Back to start.
"An "ill-prepared" attack with what's in place now, and about to show up on exercises, could make significant headway... the stall in the attack would not serve the US interests."
One problem is the stall, the other is possible ugly surprises.
"I don't see it though in the present state of the US economy."
I was more thinking about the iraqi oil deals and development projects, like those the Russians have been after so eagerly, and reconstruction in general, like the Kuwaiti deals.
The KDP and PUK are very different from the PKK. Both are much more clan based and nationalist and I've never heard anyone claiming they're Maoist. Even the PKK's mangled ideology is a homebrewn weirdo leftism.
Where do you get the idea ?
MtG:
"I think the "personal" aspect is that Bush and Cheney in particular see red whenever they think of Saddam"
Cheney is a total nutcase. Bush... maybe. Still wouldn't understand why he should be emotional about that.
"That's a pretty good start. Add to that his penchant for invading neighbors who piss him off.... Above all else, it's a competition for influence."
You think there is a wider plan to strategically control the region ? I'm having my doubts, mostly because of the notorious shorttermism in US foreign policy.
"I think the people least likely to be pissed would be the Iraqis, but that would really depend on how the US handles nation building and civil affairs in an occupied Iraq."
I think that will be one big mess. There are lots of unsettled scores, there is no clear contender for power, there is barely a groundwork for democracy, and the Bushies will likely install some military guy as dictator with some pseudodemocratic poopoo around him. Even then there's a likely need for occupation to hold the **** together. After a while everyone and his dog will hate the american occupation troops. And your puppet will try cutting the strings. Back to start.
"An "ill-prepared" attack with what's in place now, and about to show up on exercises, could make significant headway... the stall in the attack would not serve the US interests."
One problem is the stall, the other is possible ugly surprises.
"I don't see it though in the present state of the US economy."
I was more thinking about the iraqi oil deals and development projects, like those the Russians have been after so eagerly, and reconstruction in general, like the Kuwaiti deals.
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