Great country

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by charmon1
i use roadrunner, ah i didnt really mean to say that they couldnt be built without america what i meant is almost every countrys space program expect russia has been helped from america.

After WW2 all nations, (including European, American and Russian), developed their own space programmes independently, all based on plundered German rockets and technology.

[Pandemoniak]

Er...
Did you really became american by yourself ?

And about both the bomb and the space run, the scientists who worked for america werent only europeans that fled before WWII. It was also nazis scientists, gloriously saved from Nuremberg's judges by america who hired them.

And everytime america helped any one else, it was simply for their own profit. Can anyone let me know if they ever ONCE in their short history helped anyone just to be helpful ?

[MrFun]

anyway, back to my question . . . . .

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by MrFun
I'm usually objective when looking at my own country, but to ensure that the other side gets heard here is a question:

Before 9/11, why was it that United States never received international help in disasters?

Because they dont really have "friends", just allies and trade allies, I guess.

[Dauphin]

Because other nations are in need of aid more.

[orange]

How Original

[Pandemoniak]

How original

How true.

[Sandman]

This charming piece of propaganda comes up so often, I reckon we should prepare a standardised response.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Sandman
This charming piece of propoganda comes up so often, I reckon we should prepare a standardised response.

I can think of a few choice ones...

[flash9286]

we really didnt get much help from 9/11 execpt for military forces which was really to help their own country from terrisom. america helps everytime somebody is in trouble we always give money and forces but hardly ever get thanked for it.

[orange]

we're the most wealthy people on the planet, i think that's more than enough thanks

[red_jon]

Originally posted by charmon1
we really didnt get much help from 9/11 execpt for military forces which was really to help their own country from terrisom. america helps everytime somebody is in trouble we always give money and forces but hardly ever get thanked for it.

DL!


Do you like Fox News then?

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by charmon1
we really didnt get much help from 9/11 execpt for military forces which was really to help their own country from terrisom. america helps everytime somebody is in trouble we always give money and forces but hardly ever get thanked for it.

On June 2001, it was Paraguay, IIRC, was under
- floods
- volcano and earthquakes
- civil war
- plague
at the same time.

America's veto at the FMI refuse to cancel their extern debts. you call that help ?
While on 9/11/02, everyone commemorated, forgeting about all the rest of the world misery. We, the whole world, helped you to spread the propaganda for your oil war in Irak. (dont say its war on terrorism, America sold the weapons itself to these terrorists)
And you're not even thankful.

Damn capitalist greedy pigs.

[Sandman]

america helps everytime somebody is in trouble we always give money and forces but hardly ever get thanked for it.

That's shocking. Even International Rescue get thanked on a regular basis.

[finkian]

Even though Charmon's somewhat inept defense of the US is lamentable, I agree with the spirit of his statement. Yes, the US has done some things that we should not be proud of... but I think America has done many things that it SHOULD be proud of-- ridding Afghanistan of a repressive government, stopping Iraqi atrocities in the streets of Kuwait City-- sure, of course they were for our benefit. But there are many things we do in which the benefit to us is not clear. Somalia-- it's unfortunate that our intervention in Somalia turned out so badly, but who was it who landed on the beach to feed the starving masses? And foreign aid to us during 9/11? Ok, the british went with us. Meanwhile, Palestinians danced in the streets, the Arab world in general sat back, Asia was silent... Europe, while not silent, goes forward to say that we should NOT further liberate countries under oppression-- and believe me, Iraq, and the Arab World, would benefit from the removal of Saddam's regime. Oh well. People are always pissed at those better of than they. Get over it. Find an economic system that works, instead being angry at us for having one.