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  • #16
    well, those domestic attacks that we had earlier in the year...? not from saddam.

    saddam is not our only threat. i just want to know why he's now our first concern.
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    • #17
      Merely next in line. No real surprise. Bush has named Iraq from jump.
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      • #18


        This would have cost him my vote, if I wasn't already dead set on voting against him.
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        • #19
          Finally that bastard Saddam that so many Eurocoms support is going to be eliminated.

          You americans probably want some action taken against Iraq I think...
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #20
            I would have thought that you would have argued the approval from Congress was a necessity. Why the thumbs down on a promise to ask for that approval?
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            • #21
              It's a thumbs down to the whole concept of military action against Iraq, period.

              And Congressional approval is not all that is required - Congress must actually DECLARE WAR before we can attack anyone.
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              • #22
                DF, so you want Saddam to launch a nuclear weapon at some populated city... and then you come to your senses? Your views suck. I am sorry to say that.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #23
                  Congress doesn't seem interested in making formal declarations anymore. Beats me as to the reason why.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                  • #24
                    And Congressional approval is not all that is required - Congress must actually DECLARE WAR before we can attack anyone.
                    well, actually, no.

                    we didn't declare war in panama when we ousted noriega, iirc...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Q Cubed
                      well, actually, no.
                      David isn't talking about reality. He's only talking about the legality of making war upon another nation, etc. with/without a Congressional DoW.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • #26
                        DF, so you want Saddam to launch a nuclear weapon at some populated city... and then you come to your senses? Your views suck. I am sorry to say that.
                        Saddam isn't a threat to get ICBMs anytime in any of our lifetimes.

                        DD,

                        Congress doesn't seem interested in making formal declarations anymore. Beats me as to the reason why.
                        And hence all of the military actions we've fought without a declaration of war were illegal.

                        Q,

                        we didn't declare war in panama when we ousted noriega, iirc...
                        No, but that was an illegal use of military force.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Congress doesn't seem interested in making formal declarations anymore. Beats me as to the reason why.
                          To cover their asses if everything goes FUBAR. They can blame it on the President if a "police action" or whatever they'll define it as this time around if we lose or if many American soldiers are killed.

                          As for the seeking Congressional approval thing, I'm sure it's a backdoor to make sure that there will be money available beyond, IIRC, the 60 days Bush needs to declare war if he were to order airstrikes against Iraq.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by David Floyd


                            Saddam isn't a threat to get ICBMs anytime in any of our lifetimes.
                            Uhh don't misstate what I was saying... and Saddam probably won't be around next year. But if he was, he could launch chemcial or biological weapons killing thousands.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #29
                              Any idea on why Congress doesn't want to issue formal declarations anymore?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                Where does the Constitution define a DoW?
                                The constituion do not in any way define a DOW or describe its form. A DOW is what ever congress decides it is.
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