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[Boris Godunov]

Come on, at least try to support your silly claims of American Perfection with something!

Tell us how evil and nasty the Germans were in WWI, how the allies were such perfect angels, and how America swooped in (on principle) to stop that ruthless German oppression of the mud in NE France...

[connorkimbro]

Oh, you mean Korea and Vietnam? The two countries where American presence was opposed by a majority of the people, even in the so called "democratic" sectors?

I can't say about vietnam, but as for the korean war, about the only people that didn't want us there were the communist sympathizers. Which, in the south, were a small minority.

[David Floyd]

I can't say about vietnam, but as for the korean war, about the only people that didn't want us there were the communist sympathizers. Which, in the south, were a small minority.

At the very least, they weren't happy with the dictators we propped up, who in many cases were former Japanese puppets, from my understanding.

[Q Classic]

Oh, you mean Korea and Vietnam? The two countries where American presence was opposed by a majority of the people, even in the so called "democratic" sectors?

funny, i had this strange feeling that most koreans were glad that the us came in and crushed the communists...

if anything, most of the distaste among the hardliners is that america didn't do a thorough enough job of crushing communism...

and in the case of korea, the us didn't prop up former japanese puppets. you guys propped up corrupt, sneaky bastards who tended to be authoritarian or brought in by a coup d'etat. the only one who did any good for korea happened to be one of the meaner ones, park chung hee... who jumped start economic growth there.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Asher
My history is a little rough here, but didn't the US stay out of WW2 until they were attacked, whereas nations like Canada were involved from the very beginning?

That was only because your masters, at the time, in London drug you along for the ride.

[connorkimbro]

syngman rhee wasn't even a US puppet, he was installed by the UN

[Dis]

ya have to admit America lack some serious moral and ethical values. But it sill beats living anywhere else

America #1!

[Asher]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
That was only because your masters, at the time, in London drug you along for the ride.

In World War Two Canada was a completely sovereign nation and wasn't obligated to join in on the war.

[Dis]

yes but they were still a bit attached to mommy

[Felch]

Originally posted by Asher
In World War Two Canada was a completely sovereign nation and wasn't obligated to join in on the war.

Yes

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Dissident
yes but they were still a bit attached to mommy

So was FDR, it just took Churchill a bit longer...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by connorkimbro
I can't say about vietnam, but as for the korean war, about the only people that didn't want us there were the communist sympathizers. Which, in the south, were a small minority.

Not that small. Rhee had to kill a 100,000 people to stay in power.

[Q Classic]

not all of them were communist, che. he was a dictator, flat out, and killed anyone he didn't like.

[David Floyd]

Exactly - I can't imagine why jimmytrick would support propping up a dictator on one hand in order to run a war, ostenisbly for freedom, on the other.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Dissident
yes but they were still a bit attached to mommy

Damn straight! We count on mommy to get entangled every once in a while. Sometimes we need a break from hockey.

As for dictators and the Cold War... It wasn't a matter of planting democratic daisies everywhere, it was a show down between the Stalinist Soviet Bloc (and China) and the Democratic West played out mainly in other countries.

Those who ruled, or who were best to rule given the conditions became the tools for both sides.

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.