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  • Originally posted by MarkG
    i'm surprised has given any points to this troll yet

    0.1/10
    I don't think its a troll Mark. I think he's genuinely upset.
    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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    • To the greatest extent, we were acting selflessly.
      Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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      • Just to remind things to our american friends : it was the Japan who forced USA in the Pacific War with Pearl Harbor, and it was Germany who declared war to USA, not the other way around.

        Rooselvelt was willing to engage USA in the war since years. He helped the Allies as much as he could. It was the population who (though largely supportive of the Allies), did not wanted to enter the war.

        And French and British were pitifully cowards against Hitler. Chamberlain particularly, was a cretin who prevented any strong action and helped Hitler to dissecate the Czechs.
        Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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        • To the greatest extent, we were acting selflessly.

          No, seriously... Do you really believe in this propaganda crap, or are you just trolling ?
          Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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          • it was the Japan who forced USA in the Pacific War with Pearl Harbor, and it was Germany who declared war to USA, not the other way around.
            Basically, it was Hitlers idea to take the war to the USA. The USA already was giving military aid to the allies so much that there wouldn't be too great a difference to have an "official" war.
            Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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            • Anyway jimmytrick is obviously correct as far as his general opinion of the Apolyton OT forum goes. This really is a den of anti-American nonsense. If half of the posts here had an element of truth in them then the world would be justified in blowing us off of the face of the earth. Many Americans who post here would seem to enjoy the prospect of an event of that nature as well. Europe can be excused because many get their views of America from Hollywood and isolated events that are reported throughout the world but Americans who have lived and traveled here to places other than the likes of New York or Los Angeles should know better.

              Why do many Europeans who visit here remember how friendly Americans were toward them? Is it perhaps because many Americans do really care about other people besides themselves? Is it even remotely possible that even when we have been cursed with a corrupt government the people really cared whether Europe or the rest of the world lived or died?

              Millions of dollars are sent every year to poor people througout the world. And that money comes from the pockets of individual Americans who care. That same sentiment prevailed during WW2 when teenagers from this country bled and died for people they never met. It was Japan that attacked the United States. They (including my father and most of my Uncles) went to save Europe. Thanks for the gratitude. I think Apolyton reflects the attitude of rich, spoiled kids who sit behind a computer and ridicule people who would have died for them. This world has gone to hell. I am 54. I know why that generation went to war. It is interesting how time enables the revisionists to gain credibility when only paper is available to study while the people who participated are dead.

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              • Bah, damn anti-Americans are making me agree with Lincoln! DAMN YOU!!!!!

                Seriously, anti-American trolling is really bad. Yes, many conservatives and Democrats are responsible for an Imperialistic United States and its self-serving foreign policy. But don't generalize and lump all Americans, or even the vast majority of them into that category. It's sad that most people blame all of America for the greedy and immoral behavior of its politicians and the richest 1%.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • Originally posted by Lincoln
                  Anyway jimmytrick is obviously correct as far as his general opinion of the Apolyton OT forum goes. This really is a den of anti-American nonsense. If half of the posts here had an element of truth in them then the world would be justified in blowing us off of the face of the earth. Many Americans who post here would seem to enjoy the prospect of an event of that nature as well. Europe can be excused because many get their views of America from Hollywood and isolated events that are reported throughout the world but Americans who have lived and traveled here to places other than the likes of New York or Los Angeles should know better.

                  Why do many Europeans who visit here remember how friendly Americans were toward them? Is it perhaps because many Americans do really care about other people besides themselves? Is it even remotely possible that even when we have been cursed with a corrupt government the people really cared whether Europe or the rest of the world lived or died?

                  Millions of dollars are sent every year to poor people througout the world. And that money comes from the pockets of individual Americans who care. That same sentiment prevailed during WW2 when teenagers from this country bled and died for people they never met. It was Japan that attacked the United States. They (including my father and most of my Uncles) went to save Europe. Thanks for the gratitude. I think Apolyton reflects the attitude of rich, spoiled kids who sit behind a computer and ridicule people who would have died for them. This world has gone to hell. I am 54. I know why that generation went to war. It is interesting how time enables the revisionists to gain credibility when only paper is available to study while the people who participated are dead.

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                  • I'm sorry, but I owe America nothing.

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                    • Lincoln, I agree with your sentiment.

                      However... Europeans don't appreciate the way that Americans remind us of how they helped Europe. Americans who say "We saved your asses cos we love democracy" are rather insulting.

                      Mainly because it is not true, but also, I'm sure you wouldn't like to be asked for continual gratitude by the grandchild of the man who saved your grandfathers life.

                      Todays Americans did not save us, their parents and grandparents did. I appreciative the help of those who sacrificed their lives, and I regret the loss to those who lost family and friends.

                      This goes to all the peoples who saved Europe all those years ago, no matter where they came from, USA, Canada, UK etc.
                      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                      • I don't appreciate the arrogance of Americans either. I understand why some people hate Americans. It is because of the loud mouth people who live here who spend the small change of people who have actually sacrificed something besides some cheap rhetoric. Also, I do not expect enduring gratitude from anyone for what a past generation did. It just seems to me that a lot of people do not know what they are talking about when they discuss the attitudes of Americans in general. I venture to say that the majority view and attitude of typical Americans is not often seen. Loud mouthed people always get the most attention.

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                        • Lonestar says: "Screw the Rest of the World. Go America!"


                          That is all.
                          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                          • Lincoln, the reverse is also true.

                            A lot of people in Europe appreciate America, but they are not vocal, there is no need to be*, so you only get to hear the anti-American stuff.

                            *Mainly because anti-Americans are trying to neutralise the pro-America "USA, USA!" chants coming from Americans.
                            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                            • I am sure that is true as well.

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                              • And the Italians in WWI were traitors to their alliance

                                I think you were referring to WW2 as the italians kept their alliance with France against the austrians in WW1
                                I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                                Asher on molly bloom

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