sad thoughts on poly posters

[KrazyHorse]

That's why I said US support was more arguable. It's on the same level of provability as any other covert contribution of funds and armaments, but there is specific documentary evidence to back it up.

However, the fact that the Vietnamese were the ones who kicked the Khmer out is not in doubt. It's in Encarta, IIRC. Go find an encyclopedia and look it up.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger
http://www.edwebproject.org/sideshow...ears/fall.html

During the spring of 1978, Vietnam amassed thousands of troops along the Cambodian border. Khmer Rouge forces skirmished with Vietnamese troops in isolated, but recurrent incidents, raising tensions between the two nations even further. Spring also marked the signing of a friendship treaty between Vietnam and the Soviet Union, a direct response to Cambodia's close relationship with China. Cambodia and Vietnam were now the pawns of a Chinese-Soviet rivalry, not unlike when the U.S. and U.S.S.R. took advantage of the regional instability of the Vietnam War to further their own Cold War interests. And just as they had done so against the Americans and South Vietnamese, Vietnam patiently prepared for the right moment to gain an advantage while their enemy faltered.

Good sourse. For what?

[KrazyHorse]

http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/thailand.htm

[KrazyHorse]

For the fact that the vietnames were one of the major (the major?) force which precipitated the fall of the Khmer. They invaded in December 1978.

[KrazyHorse]

And which they then paid for by having the Chinese invade northern Vietnam...

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger
That's why I said US support was more arguable. It's on the same level of provability as any other covert contribution of funds and armaments, but there is specific documentary evidence to back it up.

However, the fact that the Vietnamese were the ones who kicked the Khmer out is not in doubt. It's in Encarta, IIRC. Go find an encyclopedia and look it up.

based on your 'sourses'?

Ohhhh Frogger, you're smarter than that!

Do you think the Yankees are the be all of evil? If not, wh[y] do you not place some faith that they may have occassionally done some things of benefit to a great many people, if only in benefitting themselves.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger
For the fact that the vietnames were one of the major (the major?) force which precipitated the fall of the Khmer. They invaded in December 1978.

And what does this have to do with the US?

[KrazyHorse]

Because you quoted me as saying that and scoffed at it. I said it to demonstrate that I find it incredible for you to lump Viet Nam and Cambodia into the same grouping when they fought a war against each other at precisely the same time we are discussing.

[notyoueither]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by GeneralTacticus

And your point is... what? The US never had to make sacrifices even close to those it imposed on other nations.

Bull sh!t. They cleaned up after the Euros who couldn't take care of themselves and the Pacific Rim which wasn't ready to yet.

They earned the right to interfere. So might I may add, did Canadians who have been among to first to fight in the rest of your fvcked up world for too long.

1) The US supported the apartheid regime.

2) No, I am not Greek, but Turkey was and is very repressive toward the Kurds.

3) What exactly do you mean? the US supported a Brazilian military coup in 1964, which brought about a dictatorship.



Please identify 'my side'.

1. You are on crack.

2. Turkey has gone it's own way for a long time now, like since 1922. Don't blame anyone else for your inability to break resistance at Galipoli.

3. Can you invent more bogy men for us? Even if the US did this thing (like any military in SA needed it) Brazil is doing quite nicely right at the moment. But thanks for your concern for our hemisphere.

Your side would be any lunatic fringe that wants to jump into a debate on the internet without being equipped for the task. Communists, usually.

[KrazyHorse]

http://www.singapore-window.org/sw00/001002sc.htm

[KrazyHorse]

Really, NYE. You're not having the best of this discussion. When you've been reduced to pointing out the same typo in two separate posts (from a person who I'd hope has been here long enough to prove that it was indeed a typo, and not an indication of the work of an inferior mind) you should just give up...

[notyoueither]

Pfff. Vietnam, Cambodia, the KGB. Give me a break!

These were citations of Communist blood baths, not conflicts within the Communist world.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger


Really, NYE. You're not having the best of this discussion. When you've been reduced to pointing out the same typo in two separate posts (from a person who I'd hope has been here long enough to prove that it was indeed a typo, and not an indication of the work of an inferior mind) you should just give up...

What are you babbling about? Typos?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Pfff. Vietnam, Cambodia, the KGB. Give me a break!

These were citations of Communist blood baths, not conflicts within the Communist world.

Uh huh. So now I can line up everything that's happened in the capitalistic parts of the world and line it up against that stuff? Nazi Germany, Clearances of Native Americans, etc.?

[GeneralTacticus]

Bull sh!t. They cleaned up after the Euros who couldn't take care of themselves and the Pacific Rim which wasn't ready to yet.

They earned the right to interfere. So might I may add, did Canadians who have been among to first to fight in the rest of your fvcked up world for too long.

So you think that spending a few billion dollars and losing a few tens of thousands of troops is equivalent to losing millions of civilians, having your country devasted and being subjected to dictatorship?

1. You are on crack.

Can you find a better means of expressing your disagreement with people than screamin 'BULL****!' or saying 'you are on crack'? btw, having done some further checking, I will withdraw that assertation.

2. Turkey has gone it's own way for a long time now, like since 1922. Don't blame anyone else for your inability to break resistance at Galipoli.

So you think that allowing Turkey to be part of NATO while it is busy trying to destroy Kurdish society doesn't constitute supporting them?

EDIT: Blame the Brits for Gallipoli. It isn't our fault they put an idiot in charge who sent us to occupy the wrong place.

3. Can you invent more bogy men for us? Even if the US did this thing (like any military in SA needed it) Brazil is doing quite nicely right at the moment. But thanks for your concern for our hemisphere.

Did I make any comment about how Brazil was doing right now? No. I said that the US supported a very bloody Brazilian dictatorship.

Your side would be any lunatic fringe that wants to jump into a debate on the internet without being equipped for the task. Communists, usually.

So anybody who objects to the US supporting mass murder and tyranny in the Third World is a member of a lunatic fringe and a communist? Nice logic.