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  • #151
    Originally posted by Fez


    Your antics are not appreciated on this forum. So you can say none less than "I am wrong". I don't need to support my opinions because they are just opinions. However revolting they may they are my beliefs and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Ethel, be quiet your cyncism is not appreciated here.
    See I was right. All you can do is:

    T'isn't

    T'is

    Shutup

    I don't like what you say so shut up

    I am a twerp so leave me alone


    Try learning how the debate someday Fez. This crap you are engaging in is a sad exihibition of preadolescent behaviour.

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    • #152
      My cyncism is not appreciated here either, Ethel.

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      • #153
        Um -- I'm having trouble keeping up with my own thread.

        Chris62, you're right -- I should have made this a multi-voting poll, AND added another one:

        The only legitimate form of social welfare, is corporate welfare.

        But really, this thread was never meant to be taken seriously. But one of the things about Apolyton is that a joke troll thread will unleash numerous serious debates.

        Oh well -- it's all part of the fun, no matter how bloddy it gets.
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #154
          Originally posted by jimmytrick
          My cyncism is not appreciated here either, Ethel.
          I don't think Fez quite gets what I am trying to do. I am trying to convince him to change his behavior much more than anything else. I am trying to be funny at the same time. I am not even trying to change his oppinion in those remarks. Just his method of expression. Changing his oppinion is kind of difficult when its so hard to get an idea of what it is he actually thinks.

          Of course he could just be trolling but I think he isn't. He is too consistent in this.

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          • #155
            Ethel, I speak frankly and directly.

            Open up a new thread just to ask me what I believe because I won't hestiate to tell you.

            I will again answer the question of this more directly: Idiotic assertions of conservatives?

            Like what? That we support maintain the economy without improper government interference and arbitrary laws like the Kyoto protocol? The fact that we despise the leftists who want to slam the lower, upper and middle classes with hefty taxes? The fact that we support the NRA? The fact that we are against abortion? The fact that we are in favor of the death penalty? I don't see anything idiotic there besides opinions. Those are opinions and I will try my damn hardest to respect other opinions. The past few months of my life have been tough and unreasonable... maybe I am a bitter person. Maybe I will be another paranoid Nixon type if I enter politics. Maybe I should try to change that.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #156
              I don't know enough of the Kyoto protocol to have an opinion on it either way. I just know that Bush is an oil man and doesn't give a crap about the environment.

              Fezy Fez fez... very few leftists want to slam the classes with taxes. We just want the taxes to be spent wisely. The number one problem I have with government is that it is a big waste. Look at the "war on terror". During the hay-day of the Afghan campaign, the US was pissing away a billion dollars a day. And what has been accomplisheD? Nothing!

              For a billion dollars a day, you could have built massive irrigation networks and a strong agricultural infrastructure in every third world country. If the US suddenly began HELPING people instead of dropping bombs, don't you think there would be less people that hate the US?

              We "lefties", in general, don't want to pay any more taxes. We just are against giving billions in tax cuts to the upper 1%, and we are against the avid waste of money that is rampant in the United States of America.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #157
                Originally posted by Sava
                I just know that Bush is an oil man and doesn't give a crap about the environment.
                My dad was working in one of the largest oil companies... if you say that to him he will immediately claim the opposite.

                Look at the "war on terror". During the hay-day of the Afghan campaign, the US was pissing away a billion dollars a day. And what has been accomplisheD? Nothing!
                It has accomplished the stabilization of that country, the installation of a new government, the disposal of the Taliban. You cannot deny this. THEY EVEN ARE GOING TO HAVE ELECTIONS IN TWO OR THREE YEARS!

                For a billion dollars a day, you could have built massive irrigation networks and a strong agricultural infrastructure in every third world country. If the US suddenly began HELPING people instead of dropping bombs, don't you think there would be less people that hate the US?
                Did I ever say otherwise? I love the way Israel has done its irrigation and conservation networks... drip technology, treat and clean waste water for crops. They have turned a ugly piece of desert into a green country.

                We "lefties", in general, don't want to pay any more taxes. We just are against giving billions in tax cuts to the upper 1%, and we are against the avid waste of money that is rampant in the United States of America.
                The Bush tax cuts are for all... especialy the middle class.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #158
                  Originally posted by Fez
                  It has accomplished the stabilization of that country, the installation of a new government, the disposal of the Taliban. You cannot deny this. THEY EVEN ARE GOING TO HAVE ELECTIONS IN TWO OR THREE YEARS!
                  That's good that the Taliban is gone, but it wasn't worth the price tag. And it sure as hell didn't do much to curb terrorism in the US.
                  Did I ever say otherwise? I love the way Israel has done its irrigation and conservation networks... drip technology, treat and clean waste water for crops. They have turned a ugly piece of desert into a green country.
                  ?? I'm confused... you just defended the war on terror, yet agreed with me ???

                  The Bush tax cuts are for all... especialy the middle class.
                  Enron paid 0 dollars in taxes from 1997-2000 and they got 500 million in tax cut money. My family paid close to 40k in taxes (probably more) in 2000 and received 300 bucks. Meanwhile, we've lost about $14,000 from 401k and ROTH IRA losses.

                  Bush tax cuts for all? please... take that phony rhetoric elsewhere.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #159
                    Or look at the $1.35 bn tax cut. Instead, we could have put that money into education/alternate energy subsidy/increase retirement funds/increased healthcare/increased aid to 3rd world countries. But no. Alternate Energy? Phww. Ah'm an oil man! Eddycation? Them teachers never taugh me nuthing. Retirement funds? Whats that! If you havnt made your money before you retire, then don't retire. Increased aid to the 3rd world? Hey, Colin, what's da 3rd world anyway?
                    "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                    • #160
                      Retirement funds? Whats that! If you havnt made your money before you retire, then don't retire.
                      It's such a well done example of the conservative free capitalists mentality... It's nearly artistic
                      Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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                      • #161
                        Originally posted by Sava

                        That's good that the Taliban is gone, but it wasn't worth the price tag. And it sure as hell didn't do much to curb terrorism in the US.
                        Yes it did.

                        ?? I'm confused... you just defended the war on terror, yet agreed with me ???
                        You were talking about conservation and water saving techniques. The war on terror is necessary and bombs might have to be dropped but the water systems of these countries need to be built, as well as the rest of the civil services once the war is over in that specific country.

                        Enron paid 0 dollars in taxes from 1997-2000 and they got 500 million in tax cut money. My family paid close to 40k in taxes (probably more) in 2000 and received 300 bucks. Meanwhile, we've lost about $14,000 from 401k and ROTH IRA losses.
                        But my family got a lot more from tax cuts. We aren't upper class either. I will have to talk with my dad about the tax cuts but I am sure it was more than $300. But corporate tax cuts are good because they can stimulate the economy in the long run, something liberals fail to see.

                        Bush tax cuts for all? please... take that phony rhetoric elsewhere.
                        What you are saying is no better than what I am saying.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #162
                          Originally posted by Fez

                          Yes it did.
                          If I keep agreeing with Fez I'm going to see a doctor, but I am *absolutely* with him that taking out the Taliban did reduce worldwide and anti-American terrorism. Doing nothing would have begged for even greater attacks.

                          To me, the silliest assertion of conservatives is using the abbrev IMHO.
                          It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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                          • #163
                            If nothing was done to take out the taliban, Al qaeda would of went on developing chemical and biological weapons. And sooner or later would of gotten its hands on a nuclear warhead.

                            It sure didn't delete the problem but it certainly reduce it.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #164
                              Gah. Dont tell me the left cant be authoritive. Christ, look what there telling people. You cant use or buy guns, You cant smoke, you cant drink in public. Oh a few dozen more things.

                              Thats all the left wants to do. Thats its bloody mission. Its to control how YOU live your LIFE.

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                              • #165
                                Originally posted by leftover_crack
                                Gah. Dont tell me the left cant be authoritive. Christ, look what there telling people. You cant use or buy guns, You cant smoke, you cant drink in public. Oh a few dozen more things.

                                Thats all the left wants to do. Thats its bloody mission. Its to control how YOU live your LIFE.
                                Damn right.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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