Evilest Leader Ever

[Az]

Che , I think an apology is due .

Sonic, you're still a wànker for thinking that white people are better at something , and black people are better at something.

[Carver]

Why the hell would Clinton be included but not Reagan. Reagan killed and enslaved millions throughout the world just to put some geopolitical pressure on his chosen enemy, the Soviet Union. Reagan instigated or sustained wars in Nicaraugua, Angola and Afghanistan that have killed millions and turned those countries into wastelands. Reagan helped keep the corrupt, evil, oppressive and poisonous governments of South Africa and Zaire in power.

Ronald Reagan has killed millions and will burn in hell for his crimes.

[Sonic]

Baltic countries had quite the same recent history, but their older history is totally different. Also, major stats are different. Here's the differences between countries for you all:

Languages:
Lithuania - Baltic language (Lithuanian)
Latvia - Baltic language (Latvian) - sounds not very different from Lithuanian, so people who doesn't knows languages could mix them up
Estonia - Fino-Ugru language (this is not even indo-european so very different from Lithuanian and Latvian)

Religions:
Lithuania - Roman Catholic
Latvia - Lutheran
Estonia - Lutheran

History:
Lithuania was for long a great empire, Lithuanian Great Duchy, which conquered many lands from Baltic to Black seas.
Latvia firstly declared independence after WW1
Estonia firstly declared independence after WW1

Historical ties:
Lithuanian historical ties are primary with Poland (we had an united country, Poland-Lithuania, for some time)
Latvian historical ties are primary with Germany (it was once the base for German orders and was known as Livonia)
Estonian historical ties are more with Scandinavian countries

Percent of native people:
In Lithuania this percent is highest, 82% of people there are Lithuanians. There are also 8% of Russians and 7% of Poles.
In Estonia 65% of people are Estonian. There are also 28% Russians, 3% Ukraineans and 1% Byelorussians.
In Latvia only 56% of people are Latvian. There are also 30% of Russians, 4% Byelorussians, 3% Ukrainean and 3% of Poles.

Cities:
In Lithuania, unlike most of other Soviet countries, there is no major city. Vilnius (capital) has 600'000 people, Kaunas has 400'000 people, Klaipeda has 250'000 people (seaport). There are also two other cities with over 100'000 people. Both Vilnius and Klaipeda receives high amounts of investitions.
In Latvia, Riga is a major city and capital and seaport. It has over 800'000 people and that makes one third of all Latvian people. The only other city with over 100'000 people is Daugavpils, which has 130'000 people.
In Estonia major city is Tallin. It has about 400'000 people and receives 90% of investitions coming to Estonia.

Also...
Lithuania has the most people (3,6 million, compared to Latvian 2,5 million and Estonian 1,7 million) the biggest size (slightly bigger than Latvia and much bigger than Estonia) and biggest number of people per square Kilometer. Latvian and Estonian number is more near Scandinavian nations, while Lithuanian - near other western European nations.

Some landscape notes:
Estonian highest hill is highest in all the Baltic states and Lithuanian is the lowest. However, avarage height of Lithuanian territory is the biggest. Lithuanian and Latvian scenic is more like western Europe (with sandy beaches), while Estonian - like scandinavian one, with many islands near coasts and some cliffs. Latvia and Estonia has big lenght of shores, while Lithuania has only 99 kilometers.

[loinburger]

Where there significant differences in how the three nations were dealt with (or acted) during WWII?

[Sonic]

Yes, this was also different. So is current politics (for example role of president in all countries (biggest in Lithuania, smallest in estonia)), etc. Just I don't think I seriously need to write a post with all the differences, sice it would have to be kilometers long .

[Pekka]

It'd have to be Amin or Stalin. Hitler is there too, but I haven't decided yet if he's more evil than Amin. Maybe Adolf beats Amin, but Stalin gets my vote.

[loinburger]

I'm afraid I don't know much about Amin, except that he ate people...

[DinoDoc]

I'm suprised that Lenin doesn't get more votes from the finns given how thier country suffered during the Finland Civil War.

Damn typos.

[Pekka]

DinoDoc, You mean finland suffered during civil war? I don't think many in here thinks now that Lenin was an evil man.. we like to concentrate on Stalin.

[loinburger]

It's really tough for Lenin to get any votes with Stalin right above him and Pol Pot right below him. Maybe he'd fare better at the bottom of the list, next to Banana and Bill Clinton.

[JCG]

Hitler and Stalin weren't the most evil guys on that list, just the ones that killed the most people...It's an important difference.

[Sonic]

JCG, Mao killed most people on that list. As far as I know if considering deaths in civil war into account he killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined. However, I don't consider Mao worse than Stalin because he at least kept his politics inside China, whithout occupying countries like both Hitler and Stalin did.

[Sava]

Evil comes in many forms. I guess I would have to base my decision on a combination of intent and action. Hitler was at least open about his evil. Ronald Reagan, for instance, and other American politicians, lie blatantly about their intentions, motives, and who they really represent. At least Hitler wanted to create a Utopia, and wanted some good. Don't misunderstand me, Hitler was evil. But I think that evil disguised as good is more dangerous than someone like Hitler. I think the politicians today that perpetuate this economic repressive siege called capitalism are just as evil as Hitler.

I'll cast my vote for Hitler, though, because of the large body count. If you wish to flame me, please do it in another thread. I won't respond to thread-jacking in this thread.

[Capt Dizle]

Khan's credo was to kill the men, steal their possesions, and embrace their wives and daughters. Whole civilizations were razed. Evil for evil's sake.

[Mao]

HEY! I resent being on the list!!!