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  • #16
    Originally posted by red_jon
    Did anyone else wanna smack the US President in that film? Or at least watch him get blown apart
    He gets thrown out of office in the book.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • #17
      DinoDoc: No.

      you gotta realize how incorrect he is at times.
      urgh.NSFW

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        He gets thrown out of office in the book.
        Well that sounds better. That man is the most stupid and incompetant President I have ever seen in a serious film.

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        • #19
          It was a coin toss between Ben Affleck and Will Smith
          Bah! MIB2 was miserable. I doubt Will Smith could distract you from all the stupidity in that movie.
          When one is someone, why should one want to be something?
          ~Gustave Flaubert

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog


            Bah! MIB2 was miserable. I doubt Will Smith could distract you from all the stupidity in that movie.
            Worse than the Sum of all Fears? It's quite scary to think I actually chose the better film last night

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Azazel
              you gotta realize how incorrect he is at times.
              It's called fiction. History is a different part of the bookstore.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #22
                I hate the way he always portrays the Americans as the PERFECT good guys.


                You are kidding right? You have one of the most idiotic, trigger-happy US Presidents in SoAF, and then one of the most corrupt in Clear and Present Danger. At least 2 US Presidents had to resign in the book. Americans do not come off as perfect by any means.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #23
                  The hero's are always perfect. Not all Americans.
                  I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                  • #24
                    Well Ryan is an alcoholic
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      Ok, they have a single flaw, but that flaw doesn't manage to prevent them from saving the day or getting the girl. It comes close to preventing them, but they overcome whatever it is.
                      I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                      • #26
                        Yea MIB2 is one of those movies you take your SO to. "Gee this movie is so boring and its so dark in here. Whatever will we do?"
                        When one is someone, why should one want to be something?
                        ~Gustave Flaubert

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                        • #27
                          the movie looked like @ss from the get go, what with all the plot changes.

                          lonestar got most of the big changes:
                          1. a white neo-nazi bad guy (i still don't understand why they'd want to bomb the us...) instead of a muslim fundamentalist terrorist.
                          2. a stolen russian nuke instead of a lost israeli nuke (this one i can deal with).
                          3. baltimore gets blown up, instead of denver (eh, this one's a tossup.)
                          4. jack ryan is young, instead of old (i don't like this one-- he's supposed to already have gone through a lot).

                          see, i dunno about you, but when you change too many critical elements of the original plot, you should lose any right to say it's based on the original text.

                          which is why another piss-poor movie like that, "the time machine," ostensibly based on the novel, shouldn't have said it was.

                          hollywood has a funny way of "adapting" books to screen. if by "adapting" you mean rewriting the entire fvcking thing.
                          B♭3

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Q Cubed
                            2. a stolen russian nuke instead of a lost israeli nuke (this one i can deal with).
                            It was still an Israeli nuke.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #29
                              So to sum up..the book was great..the movie is ****e
                              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                              • #30
                                yeah, i haven't seen it. what little i know of it i got from various reviews, so my apologies about the origin of the nuke.

                                perhaps i should see the movie to understand why exactly white neo-nazis would want to bomb a white united states... and how white neo-nazi anti-semites ever got a hold of a jewish atomic weapon...
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