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  • #31
    > What about the $25k that bastard pays for suicide bombers in Israel?

    (1) Under international law, is this the equivalent of paying an assassin?

    (2) Is it really $25k? I would expect that would be a fortune in that part of the world.
    It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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    • #32
      (1) Under international law, is this the equivalent of paying an assassin?
      Yes.

      (2) Is it really $25k? I would expect that would be a fortune in that part of the world.
      My source is: http://www.defenselink.mil - Some of the past articles at that respected site has Rumsfeld talking about the $25,000 given to suicide bomber's families.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #33
        Tuberski, A little. Not much though. But if we would, would you share the oil pipelines with us? .
        Btw, we have people in for example afghanistan right now. Plus in the near future, we will get refugees and pay for them.
        Besides, war on terror is not our war in the way that it is for you guys. We don't have terrorists, no matter how people would love it. Our budgets are a bit smaller than yours, and so is our military. Also we have a politics for NOT attacking any country, not even for selfdefense.

        So in short, we don't have the resources for it even if we wanted to, our legislation won't allow it etcetc.
        We don't get any threats from other countries, Al Qaida is not threatning us, so what exactly is it that we should do other than show our moral support?
        In da butt.
        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by loinburger
          F'rinstance, one Portuguese fellow explained that he disliked me because Fox News spouts conservative propoganda. The fact that I do not work for Fox News was apparently lost on him.
          Hey, sounds like Fez's blanket bitterness for the rest of Europe.
          If playground rules don't apply, this is anarchy! -Kelso

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Pekka

            We don't get any threats from other countries, Al Qaida is not threatning us, so what exactly is it that we should do other than show our moral support?

            Moral support that, according to the article at the beginning of this thread, is lacking......
            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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            • #36
              Okay Pekka... you have a point and I must concede I was a bit too loud mouthed.... I should of noted some of the good things your country and other neighboring countries have done.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Fez


                They are uninformed about the situation.



                We can go after them ourselves. That is what the Spanish Civil Guard is for. BTW, the political party of the ETA has just been illegalized in Spain.l



                Because you don't want the US to attack Iraq.

                I never said you all were terrorist supporters. I just said those filled with ignorant thoughts (saying that the US shouldn't go after terrorism) are those who actually support terrorists indirectly.
                Who are? The Northern Europe? We get newspapers too. What is it that we haven't been informed?


                And yes, some people don't want US to attack Iraq, how is that different from the rest of the world?
                And yes, you said we are terrorist supporters.
                And NO ONE is saying US shouldn't go after terrorism, some people just have different opininons how it shoud be done.
                And I didn't get any facts how we have been slowing down the war.

                edit: Nice quoting!
                I apologize my attacking. I have some worries not related to this, so it was a bit uncalled for. Sorry fez and looove to you.
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                • #38
                  Pekka, read my last post. You will see I have conceded in being too fast in drawing conclusions.

                  BTW, ETA is on the run... we are going after them...
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kamrat X
                    It comforting to know that some americans are thinking for themselves
                    Absolutely!!

                    I wholeheartedly agree!
                    Why, tune into the local Radio Station folks and hear what America is saying about those whom dont like U S A

                    its call signs are very simple..ifin you can try and apply some of the wise and wonderful wisdom you people whom dont like America possess, tune into:

                    "W" ho
                    "G" ives
                    A
                    "R" ats
                    "A" r$E!!

                    In other words, Love USA
                    Hate USA
                    Or whatever, I cant control your response, no matter, I am one person, I dont hate folks whom live in others countries, I dont hate those whom finance terrorism because I feel that the US Govt. does more than its share of covert Ops, but I dont hate other people, and for real, I see a lot of my hard earned US Tax dollars going to economic aid to lots of countries whom in turn bite our hand, my hand, the working stiff that helps finance reformation in a foreign land only to have that country rear its head, bare its teeth and growl how unjust we are or how arroagant we are or how we offend other countries, like Americans get offended and we are just supposed to sit back.

                    I say dont hate, Just.......
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                    Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fez
                      ... because Bush is making progress against terrorism?



                      Bomb one (along with two of his sisters and their friend), two grow up in his place.
                      If playground rules don't apply, this is anarchy! -Kelso

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                      • #41
                        sig pics suck
                        Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
                        "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by tandeetaylor





                          Bomb one (along with two of his sisters and their friend), two grow up in his place.
                          Not happening in Afghanistan, infact they are happy to have the US there. Millions of afghanis would of starved to death.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #43
                            What's made you such a sycophant Fez?

                            And deposing Saddam or the welfare of the people was never a concern in the Gulf War nor the following 11 1/2 years...nor during the sanctions...why now? We know the story of what happens when the US meddles: Nicaragua, Vietnam, Cuba...and you try and tell me that the US administration is doing it for 'the right reasons'. Pull the other one, it is about enforcement and terror of their own, like much of the campaign in Afghanistan. To demonstrate who is top dog. Call me cynical if you must, but US foreign policy is the epitome of gunboat diplomacy!
                            Speaking of Erith:

                            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Fez
                              Not happening in Afghanistan...
                              OK, I didn't mean, like, in the exact geographical location that the other one was standing in. I'll be more clear next time.
                              If playground rules don't apply, this is anarchy! -Kelso

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                              • #45
                                Say what you want PH, you have your opinions. I have mine. I will respect you (no matter how hard it is). And don't call me names based on what I think.

                                If the US never intervened in Afghanistan, I would know who to blame for what would of happened to millions of afghani people. They would of starved to death. Now you are saying the US shouldn't of invaded Afghanistan?

                                Geez... this is too much...
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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