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    Global warmth for U.S. after 9/11 turns to frost Military plans repulse even European allies

    OXFORD, England -- On a packed train out of London recently to this historic college town, a young American woman struck up a conversation with her seatmate, a nattily dressed older British man. They chatted amiably about Oxford until she worked up the courage to ask what was weighing on her mind:

    ''Why,'' she blurted out, ''does everybody hate us?''

    The man paused -- but didn't disagree -- before proceeding to enumerate the reasons, from U.S. foreign policies to the seeping influence of American popular culture.

    In the shock wave that followed the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, many Americans found themselves asking why so many people in Muslim countries hate the United States. But the anti-American sentiment has turned into a contagion that is spreading across the globe and infecting even the United States' most important allies.


    In virulent prose, newspapers criticize the United States. Politicians ferociously attack its foreign policies, especially the Bush administration's plans to attack Iraq. And regular citizens launch into tirades with American friends and visitors.

    Here in Britain, the United States' staunchest friend, snide remarks and downright animosity greet many Americans these days. It's not just religious radicals and terrorists who resent the United States anymore.

    ''Now, it's everyone,'' says Allyson Stewart-Allen, a consultant from California who has lived in London 15 years and heads International Marketing Partners, which advises European companies on how to do business with Americans. The sea change in attitude toward the United States, she says, has ''profoundly'' altered her advice to clients:

    She now must counsel them to resist ''taking digs'' at her countrymen.

    What happened, many Americans are wondering, to that wave of sympathy and stockpile of global goodwill they encountered after Sept. 11?

    ''It was squandered,'' says Meghnad Desai, director of the Institute for Global Governance at the London School of Economics and Political Science and a member of the House of Lords.

    ''America dissipated the goodwill out of its arrogance and incompetence. A lot of people who would never ever have considered themselves anti-American are now very distressed with the United States,'' he says.

    Desai and others blame what seems to be a wave of new U.S. policies that they regard as selfish and unilateral, stretching back to President Bush's refusal last year to support the international treaty on global warming.

    Many are enraged by Bush's support for steel tariffs and farm subsidies, his refusal to involve the United States in the new international criminal court and what is widely regarded abroad as one-sided support for Israel and its prime minister, Ariel Sharon.

    The rash of corporate malfeasance and blanket arrest of terrorism suspects after Sept. 11 further fuels critics, who say the United States preaches democracy, human rights and free enterprise -- but doesn't practice them.

    Growing gap with Europe

    In a recent article in Policy Review magazine, Robert Kagan, a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, says the divide between the United States and Europe is getting wider than ever as the continents go their different ways -- one operating on a foreign policy based on unilateralism and coercion, the other on diplomacy and persuasion.

    Europeans, he says, have ''come to view the United States simply as a rogue colossus, in many respects a bigger threat to (their) pacific ideals than Iraq or Iran.''

    The differences, he says, are deep and likely to endure.

    ''Why do people attack Americans?'' asks Tiny Waslandek, a social worker in Amsterdam, Netherlands. ''Because they have a big, big mouth and they mind everybody's business.''

    Bush's plan to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein is stoking anti-American hostility to bonfire levels. In Germany earlier this month, Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder launched his re-election campaign by denouncing what he derisively called Bush's proposed military ''adventures'' in Iraq. In England, the new head of the Anglican Church and other leading bishops circulated a petition proclaiming that any attack would be illegal and immoral.

    Linked to Iraq and Israel

    ''My sense is that much of the rampant anti-Americanism we see now is very much linked to a war with Iraq and the Israel-Palestine issue,'' says Mary Kaldor, a London-based scholar on international relations.

    In the popular Straw Poll BBC radio show July 26, Kaldor debated with Washington Post reporter T. R. Reid whether ''American power is the power of the good.'' She argued that the U.S. role as the sole superpower was a danger to the rest of the world.

    At the end of the program, 70% of the studio audience said it agreed with her.

    Anti-Americanism is nothing new. Surveys a decade ago in Britain showed that one in four people here are what pollster Robert Worcester, a transplanted Kansan who runs the Market Opinion Research Institute, calls ''culturally anti-American.''

    (According to a survey taken in 1989, one in five said they found American accents irritating.)

    To some degree, the resentment against the United States is inevitable now that it's the only remaining superpower. Even so, Desai, who says that he is ''very, very pro-America'' and that people forget the United States saved Europe from itself twice in the past century, notes that America has been on top for a long time. ''So what is happening now is not the inevitable result of being No. 1.''

    (Desai and many other Europeans give Washington credit for dismantling the hard-line Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which harbored Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorist network).

    In recent months, polls have shown a less-than subtle change in attitudes toward Americans, U.S. foreign policy and, in particular, the president from Texas. British newspapers reported Thursday that secret polls commissioned by Prime Minister Tony Blair revealed ''spectacular unpopularity'' for Bush among voters here.

    In April, the German news magazine Der Spiegel reported that less than half (48%) of Germans consider the United States a guarantor of peace in the world, compared with 62% who did in 1993. Nearly half -- 47% -- rated Americans as aggressive rather than peaceful (34%). And 44% called them superficial.

    Meanwhile, in an April poll for the Council on Foreign Relations, based in Washington, Europeans proved highly critical of Bush and what they label his unilateral approach to foreign policy: 85% of Germans, 80% of French, 73% of Britons and 68% of Italians said they believed that the United States is acting in its own interest in the war on terrorism.

    Philadelphia transplant Susan Steele, head of Forum management company in London, has noticed that many Europeans have started using the phrase ''that's American,'' which is shorthand, Steele says, for ''not taking anyone else into consideration.''

    ''People here were truly shocked and horrified by Sept. 11,'' says Marjorie Thompson, an American who runs the consulting group C3I in London. ''But since then, they've come to believe that the United States is using that as an excuse for a unilateral foreign policy, and they're starting to make sweeping anti-American comments.''

    'Oppressed opinion'

    Even British pop star George Michael and tennis pro Martina Navratilova have taken swings at the United States. Last month, Michael declared he was ''definitely not anti-American'' after receiving criticisms for his new single, Shoot the Dog, which lampooned the relationship between Bush and Blair.

    In June, Navratilova, a Czech native who became a U.S. citizen 20 years ago, had to defend herself after writing an article for a German newspaper in which she said that the United States now ''oppressed opinion'' and that decisions there were based ''solely on how much money will come out of it.''

    That the United States is suffering an image problem abroad has become obvious at home. Two weeks ago, the White House announced it would create a permanent Office of Global Communications to enhance America's image around the world. At the same time, the House of Representatives approved spending $225 million on cultural and information programs abroad, mostly targeting Muslim countries, to correct what Rep. Henry Hyde, R-Ill., called a ''cacophony of hate and misinformation'' about the United States.

    Meanwhile, the Council on Foreign Relations simultaneously issued a biting report warning the Bush administration that it urgently needs to upgrade its efforts at public diplomacy to counteract the country's ''shaky'' image abroad.

    It called for a range of actions, from increased spending on polling of foreign public opinion and more training of foreign service officers to giving journalists from other countries access to top U.S. government officials.

    'Ominous' consequences

    The consequences of neglecting such public diplomacy are ''ominous,'' warns Peter Peterson, chairman of the council and of The Blackstone Group, a New York private investment bank. He says bin Laden has ''gleefully exploited'' the United States' poor public image.

    ''Around the world, from Western Europe to the Far East, many see the United States as arrogant, hypocritical, self-absorbed, self-indulgent and contemptuous of others,'' Peterson says. ''This is not a Muslim country issue. It has metastasized to the rest of the world and includes some of our closest European allies.''

    New Yorker Julia Magnet, a journalist who just moved to London, found that out when she decided to throw a Fourth of July party for British friends. Between grilled sausages and chocolate cake, her friends launched an attack on Bush and the United States. They called Bush a ''homicidal maniac'' and ''stupid'' and the United States the ''world's biggest terrorist.''

    Magnet, 22, was forgiving, and she labeled their assault ''uninformed'' and ''ignorant.''

    Nevertheless, she was surprised by the venom in their words.

    ''What I hear from people all the time now is that we're going to go to war with just about everyone and we don't need a coalition to do it,'' Magnet says.

    ''It's obvious they are very, very disturbed by the power America now has.''
    Discuss.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    here's love

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    • #3
      Thanks.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #4
        God is love...

        Jon Miller
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        • #5
          Truely those against the attack on Iraq are clearly uninformed. If you don't think I speak truely then why oh why is Saddam Hussein putting AA-Gun batteries and SAM launchers near isolated factories. What is being produced in those factories furthers the US's case.

          Now this was unacceptable:
          They called Bush a ''homicidal maniac'' and ''stupid'' and the United States the ''world's biggest terrorist.''
          If anybody said that to me I would of gotten into a big argument.

          "Unilateral policy" is probably one of the biggest lies I have ever heard of when people talk about the US....

          I assure people here, my country Spain will stand by the US and will not fall down the same ignorant path of some Europeans who are only paving the way for future terrorist attacks. THEY ARE THE ONES SUPPORTING TERRORISTS!
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #6
            BTW, less seriously... From Spain and with love.... we don't hate the US....
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #7
              It seems that people are beginning to see that the emperor is indeed naked...and not only that but also a homocidal maniac...
              I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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              • #8
                Remember Miller analogies from the SAT?

                US : European allies = Parent : teenager

                Let em whine. Ear plugs are a small price to pay for world domination.
                Last edited by Kepler; August 14, 2002, 19:40.
                It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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                • #9
                  European Allies that complain: Probably most of Central and Northern Europe (Germany, France... etc)

                  Kepler, I assure you my people are not whining about what the US does, we are behind them every step of the way. And the same with Italy.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #10
                    @ DinoDoc
                    @ Fez
                    @ Jon Miller
                    @ Kamrat X

                    @ Kepler

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                    • #11
                      I was disgusted by the way Americans reacted to Sept. 11. I don't hate America, but I definitely hate a lot of Americans. Just chaulk it up to being someone who has always considered herself very patriotic, and hated to get shoved around on the bandwagon by a bunch of newcomers who were loud, ignorant and rude.
                      If playground rules don't apply, this is anarchy! -Kelso

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                      • #12
                        It comforting to know that some americans are thinking for themselves
                        I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                        • #13
                          fez, northern europe.. my ass. You need to learn to shut up when you know nothing you talk about. Really. If you got something against us, say it, don't imply every chance you got.
                          In da butt.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pekka
                            fez, northern europe.. my ass. You need to learn to shut up when you know nothing you talk about. Really. If you got something against us, say it, don't imply every chance you got.
                            Yes I got something to say to you: Stop messing around with plans against terrorists. If you hate the US so much mind your own business. They have a right to attack Saddam.

                            At least my country has some common sense about terrorists. Heck, we are very decisive when going after them. We don't say "oh maybe they will go away because of our ignorance" like some Europeans, we rather say "They can run but they can't hide." And that IS A FACT!
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fez
                              Kepler, I assure you my people are not whining about what the US does, we are behind them every step of the way. And the same with Italy.
                              I know that Fez, I was kidding. (I have now added the appropriate emoticon; I genuinely didn't think it was necessary.)

                              Whenever I go overseas people say the same thing: we love Americans but we have questions about the American government and its policies. I tell them that's exactly how most Americans feel (about 55% last time we checked), and we all laugh and get along after that.

                              Be that as it may, I support what the US has done internationally thus far with respect to 9/11. The justice department has been taking the easy, jackboot way, but the military and State having been saying and doing the right things. Even an attack on Saddam might in the end be the right thing, if we can round up allied support. Going it alone would obviously be a disaster.
                              Last edited by Kepler; August 14, 2002, 19:50.
                              It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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