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Originally posted by Kropotkin
If Sweden had openly sided with Nato there was a great risk of destabilising northern Europe.
I see we've done our Social Democratic homework, Krop. Soon you'll be telling us we don't appreciate a bunch of crap piles as a fitting memorial to Raoul Wallenberg because we're petty burgeoise...
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What makes the Sweden's situation so different than that of West Germany or Italy, two strong members of NATO?
Edit: moomin, that's gratuitous.
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Well one could argue that in case of overt NATO membership, the Social Democratic Conspiracy might have been driven to acts of desperation, launching MIRVs filled with crapola art.
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Originally posted by Jaakko
the Social Democratic Conspiracy might have been driven to acts of desperation, launching MIRVs filled with crapola art.
Isn't that banned by the Geneva Convention?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I believe there is a loophole in there somewhere, allowing anti-materiel use.
Especially in case of crap art.
It's called the Poophole Loophole.
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Well, Germany and Italy was part of the war and was thus also part of the restructuring of Europe after the war. There was not however the case that everything that happend there wasn't potentianlly 'destabilising', just look at Berlin.
Sweden was neutral during the war and have a long tradition of non-alignment. At the same time many argued that due to Finlands situation sweden should keep a neutral line. As probably most finns here can tell us better than I Finland had quite a unpleasant security situation after the war. The reasons for the Swedish unaligment was more or less offically that if Sweden joined nato it might mean that the russian bear would feel the need to take some steps to 'protect' Finland.
This is the 'official' version. One could argue that a) the scenario wouldn't happen or b) this wasn't the real reason. Whatever, from the perspective of the swedish goverment it would seem reasonable to keep a straight line and not join either side.
What moomin likes to do is to turn history, that's something complex and gray and turn it around to fit his political views of the world of black and white. I argue that joining nato would be a risk and at the same side quite pointless. Joining a military alliance is and should be the best choice from a regional security perspective not because out of a desire to start a crusade to free the world from communism.
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