What Does It Take To Get A Job?

[Bereta_Eder]

except for that about giving false CVs. I wouldnt recomend that

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Re: Re: What Does It Take To Get A Job?

Originally posted by moomin


It's difficult to tell, but here are a couple of things you should be doing unless you are already - take this form someone who sits on the other side of that interview table 2-3 times a month.

1) Is your Corporate Bullsh!tese up to scratch? No, really - it's not that anybody believes that you or they actually think anything you say in this mode, but it will show a) you're willing to play the game, and understand the rules and b) gives a fair bit of info on your actual abilities otherwise. A consumate CB:er will probably fit right in with the other important corporate decision processes: spin doctoring, blame shifting and backstabbing.A jerk who can't even get the simple protocol of "I'm interested in furthering myself in this field by meeting new challanges while applying my abilities to the benefit of this company" right will not be an asset to the group when the next round of cuts begin.

so f****** true

That is why capitalism sucks

life is a stage - and we are all the actors, :-/

oh I am ready for the jungle - I mean to go and live somewhere outside of this civilisation.

[rah]

Listen to MikeH. I had three different resumes, and every cover letter was customized for the specific company. I am never out of work long. I got an interview out of every 2 or 3 resumes sent. (of course, I haven't looked since the economy tanked.)

Moomin, comes in a close second. But I'd still wear the suit. The trick is to look like you belong in it, even if you won't be wearing it on the job. It shows you have confidence and could be manager or better material later.

[Bereta_Eder]

actors or not actors. fook them all. just do your job well, take no sh!t from noone and that's that.

[rah]

And be careful if you take an entry level position to prove yourself. Most decent sized companies, (in the US) do increases as a percentage of you current salary.
10% of nothing is nothing. And 5% of a lot is sweet. It's almost impossible to get it up where it usually belongs. If you're going to go that route, you'll probably have to change companies once you're experienced. The exception is if you intern. It's a trial for both sides. Make them start you at a decent salary if the decide to make you permanent.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by rah
Listen to MikeH. I had three different resumes, and every cover letter was customized for the specific company. I am never out of work long. I got an interview out of every 2 or 3 resumes sent. (of course, I haven't looked since the economy tanked.)

What do you think I do...I am well versed on this kind of stuff too, tweaked CVs (although they are all pretty much the same kind of area of job so this isn't a big issue) and the covering letters are written for each, well maybe using paragrahs from previously written covering letters at templates. Most of the applications I have made are via application form which require statements, but these are tailored to the specific job...so still twiddling my thumbs...

[Saras]

Tried the ones I mentioned?

[Provost Harrison]

It's not finding the places to apply so much, there seem to be enough around to keep me busy...for the time being I am going to go for something a bit more 'down to earth' and then think about stuff like emigrating

[Ecthy]

I am certain it is in being good looking. Sorry, Rich

[Provost Harrison]

Well prepare yourself for a life of unemployment Andy

[Dinner]

The have lots of good books about writing a good resume and improving your interviewing skills. Maybe a stop at your local library would be time well spent.

[Saras]

Don't emigrate - sell their stuff in UK, for example. Fermentas' clients are unis and research labs, and only someone who knows his sh!t can even attempt a sale. Biotechna is another matter, tho.

[Provost Harrison]

I really feel ambivalent about sales, at least at this point in my life...I'd rather have something that is a bit more 'hands on' at the moment...

[CapTVK]

There isn't much I can add to the advice above...

Don't forget to list and mention (if they ask) any extra curricilar activities (volunteering, organizing, studies etc...). In fact, try to get involved in some volunteer project. Helping to organize one is even better for your CV. It shows you have initiative and organizing skills. Plus it's a great way to find new contacts.

[Saras]

Just being nice. It's not that this city is devoid of people willing to drink beer with me or smth