Are you for or against capital punishment?

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Against death penalty because innocents are being killed.

Sad, but true for now. But as racism, in the US at least, becomes more and more a thing of the past, and new technologie such as DNA testing become more and more practiced, then falsely accused people should be almost 100% exonerated. Many peope do spend around 20 years on death row after all, giving them much time for appeals for either innocence or a lesser punishment.

Besides life imprisonment is far more suffering.

Maybe in Greece, but in US prisons the only worries they have are getting raped by other prisoners, and occasionally being murdered by rival gangs. And most like the thrill of conflict to keep them entertained while slugging through their sentence.
Truth is, prison isnt that bad here. If they restricted freedoms more than they do, then maybe the case for a more suffering punishment would be true. But the DP still has the psychological deterant, every human has the instinct to survive hardwired into their brain, everyody wants to live - with very few exceptions. For this reason the DP prevents many murders. Not all mind you, there are those who dont want to live anymore, but they usually kill themselves after murding however, usually an estranged spouse or something.

Kman

[Bereta_Eder]

I dont think you will ever and under all circumstances be certain that no inoccent will be convicted.

Prisons in Greece are actually now overcroweded since the influx of immigrants started. 1/3 of prison's population are immigrants...

murderes which escape for the prisons of albania come here are caught and are thrown again in prison after their sentence they are deported.

BTW i think that the threat of being awqarded a DP doesn deter a criminal. he is confrotnted with possible death every step of his "career" anyway. he keeps on doing it anyway.

[Kramerman]

BTW i think that the threat of being awqarded a DP doesn deter a criminal. he is confrotnted with possible death every step of his "career" anyway. he keeps on doing it anyway.

So a man who rapes and murders little girls faces death everyday?
"Look out Joe! That girls packing heat!". I dont think so. If you were refering to death from police chasing them, the US police departments have strict 'can not fire unless in iminenant danger' type protocalls. Therefore the vast majority of accused murderers are arrested and not shot (which is good, because many end up inocent in court). Besides, like someone said earlier, what about all the silent cases, in which there were no murders because someone was afraid of being caugt and put to death? We never hear about those because 1) there was no murder, and 2) no one is going to say they were going to murder someone.

Kman

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Against. We killed far too many innocent or insufficiently culpable people when we had it, and I doubt Britain was/is the only country who did so.

[Bereta_Eder]

Kramer, well we dont have these sort of violent crimes with little children here. one every decade or so.

im talking about the criminal which robs etc

besides life incarceration is more humbling to the mind than death, i bet those people think that.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Kramerman

Maybe in Greece, but in US prisons the only worries they have are getting raped by other prisoners, and occasionally being murdered by rival gangs. And most like the thrill of conflict to keep them entertained while slugging through their sentence.

Did you keep a straight face while you typed that out?

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
Against. We killed far too many innocent or insufficiently culpable people when we had it, and I doubt Britain was/is the only country who did so.

Thats why people should only be put to death when the evidence shows that htey are guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. Servalance camera tapes, multiple eyewitness account (which are notoriously inaccurate), hair and blood matches, dna matches, motive, written confession, etc, placing someone as murderer, is sufficient for me to put him to death. What is equally disturbing to me as people who ar innocent and punished (either sent to jail or death row) are those who are guilty and get away. Dont get me started on OJ Simpson. I dunno if any of yall outide America know about that load of horse sh1t...

Kman

[rah]

P22, They don't get the DP in the US, that's reserved for the more violent crimes.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kramerman
That is too true... such bastards are probably deserving of torture. Death is a cake walk compared to what I would do if put in a room with a sicko like that...

You are the kind of people this world needs to be protected from.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Kramer, well we dont have these sort of violent crimes with little children here. one every decade or so.

im talking about the criminal which robs etc

besides life incarceration is more humbling to the mind than death, i bet those people think that.

In th US, only those who murder (and not just any murderr, but like in the 1st degree and premeditated and all that stuff), convicted of treason, and stuff like that are even allowed to be ellegable to be put to death. So even alot of murderers dont get it, and in some cases thats good. Like a wife who has been domestically abused all her life kills her husband, though not through self defense, would probably get life in prison with the possibilty of parole too.

Kman

[nationalist]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You are the kind of people this world needs to be protected from.

Why Che, because he is outraged that a man would kidnap, rape, and murder a 5 year old girl? What would you do? Give the rapist/pedophile/murderer a stern talking to and send him to his room without supper, only to give him a hug 5 minutes later and tell him that the workers still love him? Its time for you to get real, Che.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You are the kind of people this world needs to be protected from.

OK. Very well. We will see if you have that opinion after your daugter gets raped and murdered. Im quite sure you would want to rough the guy up abit. If you dont have the desire to do so, then I would question your devotion to your child. Put yourself in her shoes for a moment, as a brute makes her feel helpless and lower than dirt as he has his way with her. And then once hes through, he kills her by whatever means. Think about that, though you probably wopuld never be able to understand.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by nationalist


Why Che, because he is outraged that a man would kidnap, rape, and murder a 5 year old girl? What would you do? Give the rapist/pedophile/murderer a stern talking to and send him to his room without supper, only to give him a hug 5 minutes later and tell him that the workers still love him? Its time for you to get real, Che.

Thank you. My point exactly.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kramerman
OK. Very well. We will see if you have that opinion after your daugter gets raped and murdered.

Why, was your little girl raped and murdered? How I might feel about a person who injured me directly, and about a person who has not affected my in any way are two different things.

The sad fact is, you are almost as disgusting a person, because you enjoy the thought of committing torture. You rationalize it away by claiming that these are unworthy people, but the fact is, if you can torture them, you can torture anyone. You're ****ing sick. The world needs to be protected from sick ****s like you.

[Bereta_Eder]

I agree with che.

But I think that Kramer was just venting anger.