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  • #31
    Originally posted by VetLegion
    nah, just switch the whole economy to agriculture and live off subsidies. given the size of the population, that should teach them
    This is, in fact, a great reason to applaud Poland's entry into the Union. The net payer countries will hurt so bad they'll start leaving. Not a moment to soon, either.
    "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
    "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Heresson
      Gangerwolf, read at least the first post of this thread, then post. Bye.

      It's either visas or no visas. The compromise were visas free of charge, and Moscow doesn't like it.
      Your speech was interesting, Serb, I haven't looked on it from that side, but it hurts the rights of all countrie except for EU, then. Why aren't they protesting.
      Because only few countries have such problems.
      And I don't see WHY IT"S OK for Baltic states to break their agreements with us.
      The best way to solve this problem is to find a compromise.
      DanS,
      Agreements can be amended or abandoned, with adequate notice given.
      Oh, how typical for an American it is. We don't need to keep our word anymore....fine let's send a note to Russians and everything will be fine.

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      • #33
        Hey, we'll give you our missile defense technology once we develop it.

        Yeah, right.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DanS
          Hey, we'll give you our missile defense technology once we develop it.

          Yeah, right.
          Given America's track record on managing to hold on to technology, I'd scrap that smiley if I were you. The only question is whether the Russians, the Chinese or the French are gonna get it first.
          "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
          "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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          • #35
            IIRC, the Russians already have a missile defense system.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #36
              "The only question is whether the Russians, the Chinese or the French are gonna get it first."

              I think the phrase you were searching for is "steal it first".
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #37
                Originally posted by moomin
                This is, in fact, a great reason to applaud Poland's entry into the Union. The net payer countries will hurt so bad they'll start leaving. Not a moment to soon, either.
                One net payer country already opted out precisely because of this concern. The country? Norway, which voted against EU membership because the rules would have made Norway a net payer country and they feared that in time their tax burden would only increase. The Nordics decided to keep their oil money and tell the EU to bugger off.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Serb
                  Oh, how typical for an American it is. We don't need to keep our word anymore....fine let's send a note to Russians and everything will be fine.
                  As a matter of diplomatic norms just about every treaty has a termination clause. Whither you agree with it or not it is, never the less, entirely legal.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #39
                    The problem is that
                    1) Even today, and especially after we shall enter union,
                    our market is free for western products. They live of it,
                    so they can pay a little.
                    2)EU plans that for 7-9 years, Polish farmers will get of budget only 25% of what western farmers shall get.
                    Isn't that a bit drastical? They'll have to concur with western ones in the same market, getting 4x less funds.
                    "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                    Middle East!

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                    • #40
                      Kinda off topic, but Konisberg/Kaliningrad should never have been Russian after WWII...maybe Polish or Lithuanian, but not Russian. Doesn't make geographical sense.

                      Now I say just split in half between Poland and Lithuania through a referendum or some other pseudo-democratic method.

                      If that doesn't work, then make it an independent mini-republic, and there you go, maybe it could join the EU someday, or even the CIS...

                      Unless the people of Kaliningrad consider themselves Russians and want to remain that way until the year 2500 or so...in that case, nevermind.
                      DULCE BELLUM INEXPERTIS

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                      • #41
                        Well there's a theory that all "democratic republics"
                        of eastern Europe were temporary countries and were supposed to be included into USSR. It could be that Kaliningrad would have been something to convince Poles to
                        it. It would have had another bonus; large Russian minority in Poland that could be used (already was in fact) for ehm
                        administration causes.
                        But I doubt that.
                        "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                        I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                        Middle East!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Serb
                          Why we can't find a compromise solution, a solution which don't heart rights of both sides?
                          We'll give you a 3% discount for using our airspace
                          Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                          Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                          Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                          • #43
                            You're too kind.
                            "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                            I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                            Middle East!

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                            • #44
                              Bastards.

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                              • #45
                                The whole Prussian area belongs to the fatherland. Not Russia, Poland, or whateverthatcountriesnameaboveitisstan.




                                Serouisly, shouldnt the Russian's/poles have paid the one million germans before kicking them out? Or did they forget about the "pay" part and just decided to kick them out?

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