Iran

[Hagbart]

And BTW: Why would Iran attack Israel with a missile?

[Eli]

Originally posted by Hagbart
And BTW: Why would Iran attack Israel with a missile?

Why did Iran supplied thousands of missiles to the Hizballah in the last couple years?

Iran never recognized the Israeli right to exist, and if someone's gonna nuke Israel it will be them.

[Hagbart]

Why not Irak, and would it really help to attack Iran. The attacks on the palestinans does not end the terrorattacks...

[Eli]

The goal is not to destroy Iran or something, just to make sure they dont get nuclear weapons.

[Hagbart]

But wont an Israeli attack just make the situation even worse.

BTW: I just read the other day in a danish newspaper that 90% of the Iranian people are agaist the government...poor them having such bad leaders they will probably revolt sometime...

[Eli]

Originally posted by Hagbart
But wont an Israeli attack just make the situation even worse.

What situation?
A succesful Israeli attack will delay the Irani nuclear program. What will get worse?

BTW: I just read the other day in a danish newspaper that 90% of the Iranian people are agaist the government...poor them having such bad leaders they will probably revolt sometime...

Wont matter. On the Israeli issue they are the same.

[Shi Huangdi]

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Sorry, but we don't live in bubbles "

I doubt there will be too much catastrophe here if Iran doesn't get nuclear power.

"Fundamentalist Iran doesn't care jack for Muslims-they use it as a great pretense for staying in power."

I disagree about this- I think the Iranian government are genuinally Moslem, and genuinally believe in carrying out the will of Allah above temporal needs, and that makes them dangerous.

"Israel is hostile towaards anything that isn't cordial to them."

They aren't hostile towards us though, and I really don't give a **** about Israel disrepecting the UN.[imrantroll] In fact, the more disrespect for the UN, the better. [/imrantroll]

"If You try to "empower them" by intervening, You'll empower the fundamentalists."

The fundamentalists are already in power, and so far there are no signs of a revolt. Among the youth in Iran there is widespread discontent at the government however so it is important to help organize a resistance.

"They are zealots, but they can think rational."

They can, but that doesn't mean they will. And we can not trust hard-core religious extremists to do so.

"It's more political organisation than terroristic."

BS, that group has supported large scale terror warfare against Israel. Iran also supports many other terrorist groups.

"Again, I see nothing wrong in that..."

You see nothing wrong with them wanting Spain to be returned to Moslem rule?

"And BTW: Why would Iran attack Israel with a missile?"

I think the greater threat is Iran supplying nuclear missles to terrorist organizations.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Hagbart
But wont an Israeli attack just make the situation even worse.

What were the negative effects of the Israeli raid on the Osirak facility?

[Eli]

Actually an Israeli attack can cause a war between the Hizballah and Israel, but that's going to happen anyway.

[DinoDoc]

A state of war already exists between Israel and Hizballah.

[Sirotnikov]

Israel is hostile towaards anything that isn't cordial to them. It disrespects UN. It should be puinished.

You're right.

I mean, how can a country, can treat the UN, and the security council, headed by countries such as Syria, with disrespect almost like Iraq!
We should leave Iraq alone and concentrate on Israel, the true menace to democracy!

Maroccan and Turkish immigration is much more dangerous for Europe than Iran.

Is that a scent of racism sprining up my nose?

Don't underestimate fundamental politicians.
They are zealots, but they can think rational.

Ok, forget the last sentance.

So, you agree that the are zealots and are a threat, but you think that Israle should be punished for attempting to deal with it, disregarding the UN therefore, which asks it to accept the zealots as part of life?

They are already supporting Terrorists, especially anti-Israel Hezbollah. It is quite possible that they would send them a small nuclear device to set off in Tel Aviv.

The most they tried so far were two 1 ton devices put under a bridge and a sky scraper.

Guess who was responsible for doing both attempts?

Hint: He was killed a by a 1 ton bomb a week ago

Hizb-Allah is pretty moderate organisation that wishes only to liberate entire Lebanon from Israeli occupation.

What utter nonsense. Lebanon is under occupation - Syrian occupation. And hezballah does nothing.

If you know russian, I suggest you start following russian intelligence sites.

Hezballa is among the largest best connected terrorist organizations in the world.

It has control over Lebanon together with Syria. It has a serious lobby inside Iran, which is a strong power base.

It kidnaps soldiers and civilians. It shoots rockets on civilians.

It builds schools, hospitals...

And uses them to shelter it's rocket launchers...

So does Hamas btw. Hamas provides free meals, groceries, school bags, and many other things to poor palestinians.

And their leader in an interview that I read said that when Shebaa or whatever was it called

And Yassir Arafat said Karin-A was a ship full of flowers at one point.

Shebaa farms was never Lebanonian. It was conquered from Syria. Which shows that Hezballah aren't really Lebanonian freedom fighters, but rather an arm of Syria.

[Sirotnikov]

Actually an Israeli attack can cause a war between the Hizballah and Israel, but that's going to happen anyway.

There are a couple of expected dates, among them the next few months are a very hot thing.

It was rumored that the Staff decided that the next Hezballa attack will cause Israel to attack Syria quite seriously.

Not an invasion, but a very large reply.

[Hagbart]

Eli, do you also want to attack Israel's other neighbors (syria, lebanon, whatever)? They could in theory also get nuclear missile sometime...

[Imran Siddiqui]

A succesful Israeli attack will delay the Irani nuclear program.

We should thus attack Israel to delay the construction of more Israeli nukes.

[Az]

Imran , we'll take EU down with us as we fall. oh, wait , that ain't much of a threat.