United States Superpower Status

[Serb]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
*Sigh* Only a few minutes after I post the thread and its already turned to spam....

It's not your fault that it turned to spam.

[Drake Tungsten]

Don't tell me to **** off. Tell some Chinese guy; they're the ones who are going to take Siberia back from you.

[Drake Tungsten]

Anyway, I'll show a little respect and get this thread back on topic. I think that the US will remain the world's sole superpower for at least 20 more years and China will be the next superpower.

[Kramerman]

I say the US will remain a Superpower for the next couple decades at least. It will then be jopined then by china, who has an industrial potential many times greater than even the US, not to mention its growing economy (thanks to shifts towards free markets...take that communism - it really doesnt work in reality. Though on paper it is perfect.....).
As for Russia, since it has shed its communist government, it was unfortunately raped by the few bastards that took control of the privatized businesses. Once corruption is squelched, and the harm done by it is undone, I will be happy to see a free market Russia in a couple of decades resume its position next to the US as a superpower, though as a close ally instead of a bitter enemy. In an ironic twist, i believe if things continue the way they are, Euro-American relations will sour significantly (with the exception of Britain) and Russo-American relations will become close almost like Britain-American relations. Though this will be fine, because Russia will probably equal the EU in power. It would be nice if we could all be friends, though.
South Africa, though it will never achieve Superpower status anytime soon, I think it does have great potential at becoming a power, which is a big deal being surrounded by the third world as it is.

Kman

[Serb]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Don't tell me to **** off. Tell some Chinese guy; they're the ones who are going to take Siberia back from you.

Don't worry. If I ever will hear smt like you said from Chinese guys, I'll tell them to do the same. But aside you, I live in Siberia and know much more then you about how things are going on here. So, everytime when I hear how somebody saying such bull**** as" Chinese are going to take Siberia back from you." ( Why back? It never belonged to them) I could only say :

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Serb


Don't worry. If I ever will hear smt like you said from Chinese guys, I'll tell them to do the same. But aside you, I live in Siberia and know much more then you about how things are going on here. So, everytime when I hear how somebody saying such bull**** as" Chinese are going to take Siberia back from you." ( Why back? It never belonged to them) I could only say :

I sense a little hostility....

[Drake Tungsten]

The Russian Far East (area north of the Amur River) did belong to China and will most likely revert to Chinese control in the future. Illegal Chinese immigration into that area are already threatening to make Russians a minority. Russia is a falling power and China is a rising power. I don't really see how Russia can hold on to the Far East, except by praying that China doesn't want it back. You're also probably going to lose the Kurile and Sakhalin islands to Japan.

Sorry to say, Russian power in Asia is waning and will soon be eclipsed by the rising powers in East Asia. Russia will still be a power, but only a regional one, in Europe. Just my two cents.

[Urban Ranger]

Serb,

The great Lenin was going to abolish all the unequal treaties signed by Tsarist Russia. The not-so-great Stalin didn't follow through on it.

[Serb]

Urban Ranger,
I thought that our governments solved all territorial problems few years ago.
If not.... then I demand return of Port-Arthur.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Kramerman


I sense a little hostility....

No, I'm not hostile. I just laugh when I hear that soon I might become a Chinese citizen.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Blah-Blah-Blah.....I don't really see how Russia can hold on to the Far East, except by praying that China doesn't want it back. Blah-Blah-Blah....

You want to know HOW? Easily :

[monkspider]

Sorry Russian comrades, but it is likely that large parts of east-asia will fall to China or Japan. I suspect everything up to Stalingrad (Volgagrad) will belong to some Asian entity in the future.

[Serb]

Good joke.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by monkspider
Sorry Russian comrades, but it is likely that large parts of east-asia will fall to China or Japan. I suspect everything up to Stalingrad (Volgagrad) will belong to some Asian entity in the future.

I dunno much about the stability of the east regions of Russia, but thats hard to imagine. I wouldnt think Russia would let these regions go without a fight (just look at chenya, a little pissant region and they are fighting bitterly over it) - and they would be able to put one up even with their decaying military.

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by monkspider
Sorry Russian comrades, but it is likely that large parts of east-asia will fall to China or Japan. I suspect everything up to Stalingrad (Volgagrad) will belong to some Asian entity in the future.

I wouldn't go this far. Russia will still probably maintain a presence east of the Urals and in Central Asia. The eastern portions of Russia, however, are going to fall if East Asian countries decide they want them. Economically and demographically, Russia is already beaten in these areas. Militarily, the balance is shifting even as we speak. I'm relatively confident that Mongolia and the Russian Maritime Territories will fall back into the Chinese orbit. Beyond that, it's hard to tell what is going to happen. If Japan became more aggressive, it could probably assert control over the island north of Hokkaido and maybe even expand into Kamchatka. And who knows how much territory China would want to take? Russia can't do much about it, besides using Serb's nuclear weapons, but does Russia really want to start a nuclear exchange in order to keep some sparsely populated forest land? I don't think so...