French make their own "ultimate army" game, ultimate surrender!

[Dauphin]

France's first nuclear test was in 1960.

[Dauphin]

Saw this whilst searching

Source BBC defence analyst in 1998.

Iran - Suspected of being within 5-10 years of producing a nuclear bomb. Seeking to recruit Russian nuclear scientists. Missile range 310 miles

[BeBMan]

You mean the French will now surrender to Iran?

[Faeelin]

Why not? They lost the franco-prussian war, barely held on in ww1 with british support (the russian front collapsed, giving the germans men to pour on the western, which was only averted by the cannon fodder from the US), and were overrun in ww2 in a month.

Then, what really proves their disgust, is THEY GAVE THEIR NAVY TO THE GERMANS.

The poles, dutch, etc. fought on, and their forces overseas remained on the allied side.

the french fought a civil war between vichy france and the allied supporters.

[Pavlov]

Originally posted by Faeelin
Why not? They lost the franco-prussian war, barely held on in ww1 with british support (the russian front collapsed, giving the germans men to pour on the western, which was only averted by the cannon fodder from the US), and were overrun in ww2 in a month.

Then, what really proves their disgust, is THEY GAVE THEIR NAVY TO THE GERMANS.

The terms for surrender given by Hitler to the French said nothing about the navy. Hitler didn't want it, because he thought he could make a good peace with the UK.

This created a bit of an anarchy concerning the French navy. The Royal Navy destroyed a couple of ships (a battleship, methinks) at Mers-el-Kebir to ensure UK naval domination over the Axis. Besides that, some ships joined the British on own initiative. Some were sunk by their crews. I don't have a link right now (too lazy) but I'm pretty sure only a minimum of french ships were surrendered or taken by the Germans.

[Pavlov]

Aww, nuts. I forgot that on occassions like these it is customary to begin your post with: "Check up your facts you polyunsaturated horseradish! $@&%!"

[Rogan Josh]

And the Americans wonder why the Europeans hate them

[Verto]

IIRC, the British asked the French to bring their fleet to the UK right before the Germans captured the port, but they refused, so the British were forced to sink many of their ships to prevent them from being captured by Germany.

[Pavlov]

Originally posted by Verto
IIRC, the British asked the French to bring their fleet to the UK right before the Germans captured the port, but they refused, so the British were forced to sink many of their ships to prevent them from being captured by Germany.

The port was in Nort Africa, Tunisia or Morocco. No German troops were near. The whole thing was a big misunderstanding, the French commander didn't realize that he had a choice besides sinking his own ship or having them sunk by the Brits. The British proposal involved taking to ships to USA were they would wait until the war was over. For some reason this never got through to the French commander and the Brits began firing.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
And the Americans wonder why the Europeans hate them

But everyone hates the French. Insulting the French is one of the few things Americans have in common with the Europeans.

[Rogan Josh]

Time for a flag change.

France is a wonderful country. 100 times more pleasant to live in than the UK, 1000 times more pleasant than Germany and 10000 times more pleasant than the US.

Great food, great wine, great weather, great women ( ), high standard of living, nice friendly people, relaxed attitude, and doesn't suck the US's **** all the time (which is why the Americans don't like the French of course....).

[Roland]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
And the Americans wonder why the Europeans hate them

We hate them ?

PS:
Vive la France!

[Andemagne]

Originally posted by faded glory
Boy why do the french get such a bad rep for world war2. Why did everybody else get off scot free? (Poland, Norway, Low countries..etc)

france is a great nation/country, and so is (compare) england and germany. norway and poland and those others are smaller nations/countries.
if you get defeated 3 times a row (bismarck's wars, WW1 and WW2) by your equal you must suck big time.

and
Stefu: there is no mountains in poland
(karpathians are only hills) well they could have used engineers to erect mountains, but.....

[Pavlov]

Originally posted by Andemagne

if you get defeated 3 times a row (bismarck's wars, WW1 and WW2) by your equal you must suck big time.

France was one of the winning nations in ww1, they weren't defeated.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Pavlov
France was one of the winning nations in ww1, they weren't defeated.

They were only saved by the introduction of American canon fodder.