"What We Think of America."

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Yes, I live in the South now, in a rather hick city (albeit with many Northern transplants).

I thought that all the hick cities were in Mississippi.

I want to thank you for defending the South though. It really isn't as bad as Victor is making it out to be.

[DanS]

"It really isn't as bad as Victor is making it out to be."

Damning with faint praise, Dino.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by DanS
Damning with faint praise, Dino.

I suppose it could be seen as that. But it wasn't my intent.

How could a region with so much culture be all bad?

[Victor Galis]

Apparently you've missed the many, many threads and posts about my Southern migration. Yes, I live in the South now, in a rather hick city (albeit with many Northern transplants). Jacksonville, Florida is within spitting distance of Georgia and is the conservative armpit of this state.

-(Shudders at the notion of Florida, then the notion of conservative red necks, then the notion of Jacksonville, and then again at all three combined.)

[Victor Galis]

How could a region with so much culture be all bad?

What culture pray tell is that?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
What culture pray tell is that?

Literature, music, art. If you want, I can even list specific examples for you.

[Dan Severn]

Thank you, arrian.

Victor: It is concievable that the other allies may have won the european war, with american supplies. Still, the U.S. is a necessary component of allied victory. I don't know if, after defeating Hitler, the Soviets and Brittish would then be capable of taking on the japanese. Most likely, they would have been forced to call a ceasefire, because the casualties in the earlier war would have been too atrocious. The british were more or less out of the picture by the fall of singapore in february 1942. Also, without a cross-channel invasion, or operation Husky in sicily, the whole of europe would have been under soviet control.

A side note: The steel of which I spoke was made by russians. American corporations went in to help the soviets create high-quality steel. They brought technology and manufacturing techniques. I was not implying that the soviet steel all came from the U.S.

And serb: There were tens of thousands of strategic bombers based in england.

[chequita guevara]

The three greatest American authors are Southerners: Twain, Faulkner, and Poe. Almost all of our music comes from the South: Gospel, Folk, Blues, Jazz, Rock n'Roll. The folks are a darn sight friendlier down here than up in the icy North. I see far more interracial friendships and relationships here than in the North, and I live in a city with half the percentage of Black folks as Chicago (25% as opposed to 47%), though I will admit this may be due to the major military presence here, which is the most integrated institution in America.

I love the South. I'm torn between moving back home to Chicago where my friends and family are, and staying here and enjoying the mild winters and palm trees and friendly people. The best beer joints I've ever been to in the whole freakin' country are here in Jax.

I miss the multitude of cultures in Chicago. I definately miss the food. I miss the different things I can do in a big city, (which is why I'm looking into a position in Atlanta).

Interestingly enough, though, the South is the most "European" part of the US. Europe, and much of the old world in fact, is very much living through its past. The South, also, lives through its past. In some ways, it can't get over losing the war or the Civil Rights movement. In the North, the MidWest, and the West Coast, the country is in the eternal present. There is no past, only the Now. America lives in the Now and always looking forward, never back. Our history is just dusty stories. The South is still living its history, even as it is hurled into the Now. It must be very schizophrenic being a Southerner.

[chequita guevara]

Enough with the WWII crap already!

[Faeelin]

Originally posted by paiktis22
the "american way of life" isn't cathcing on.

there is no people with guns, DP is illegal, social security remains strong.

if by "american way of life" they mean elections that's because of democracy nothing to do with america in particular.

if I was to talk about an intrusion of american way of life I would say... consumerism maybe?
that's again harly an american sui generis

Foolish Paik. The movies, music, fashion, values, etc. are all facets of America.

Our evil scheme to conquer the world through hollywood is triumphing at last!

Edit: Oh, and your far right greek nationalism is pathetic. We lost the war against the Vietcong, true (although largely because of a lack of will on America's part).

But we weren't the ones who couldn't beat the turks in the aftermath of ww1, when they were defeated and their empire torn asunder by revolts.

[rah]

Yeah, agreed, enough crap.

Can't we all just agree that for once we were all on the same side and each contributed according to the ability and we can all take partial credit.

(wait, that sounds a little too much like communism, please ignore this)

RAH

[Faeelin]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Enough with the WWII crap already!

Why? You can argue that if the USA hadn't intervened, the Germans would still have lost. That's probably the case, although the 40 divisions hitler had guarding the west coast might've made a difference.

But if the Germans lose, who wins? The Brits can't mount a successful invasion. So we end up with a Russia whose iron curtain resides in the channel, not germany. Damned if I can see the improvement over Nazi Germany there.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


Consider your affiliation with any commonwealth nation terminated

I still have my NZ and British passports.

[Dan Severn]

I'm sorry, Che.

It's paiktis' fault! He started it! Mooommmmmmyyyyy!!

On Topic, I've been to florida. It sucked worse than missipissi. But it steal beat the hell outta Maryland.

Some people think Texas is part of the south. It is a common misconcetion, brought on by our idiotic joining the confederacy. Texas is its own entity, culturally linked to Tennessee and Kentucky, with a good heaping of Mexican influence, put on a cattle ranch.

[Victor Galis]

Literature, music, art. If you want, I can even list specific examples for you.

-Haha... try to sell me the idea of Southern culture, while I am at Oxford, I like the notion, but it pales in comparison to anything I could consider a propper culture.

I love the South. I'm torn between moving back home to Chicago where my friends and family are, and staying here and enjoying the mild winters and palm trees and friendly people.

-The climate is downright awful.

Interestingly enough, though, the South is the most "European" part of the US. Europe, and much of the old world in fact, is very much living through its past. The South, also, lives through its past. In some ways, it can't get over losing the war or the Civil Rights movement. In the North, the MidWest, and the West Coast, the country is in the eternal present. There is no past, only the Now. America lives in the Now and always looking forward, never back. Our history is just dusty stories. The South is still living its history, even as it is hurled into the Now. It must be very schizophrenic being a Southerner.

-Yeah, they have things in common with Europe, but the south is populated by very many conservative rednecks, who would call European conservatives commies. The south also has very pathetic mass transit networks, and urban areas are very thinly populated by European standards. New England is far more European than the South.

But if the Germans lose, who wins? The Brits can't mount a successful invasion. So we end up with a Russia whose iron curtain resides in the channel, not germany. Damned if I can see the improvement over Nazi Germany there.

-I can... not much, but at least Stalin's purges were not done by ethnicity.