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Seneca,
Are you saying there's a risk Europeans will begin fighting each other if the European Union broke down?
Are you saying there's a risk Europeans will begin fighting each other if the European Union broke down?
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Bismark would look upon the state he created and despair at how far you've fallen.Originally posted by BeBro
Our European neighbours esp. France should be glad about it...
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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he'd be gölad that at least something survived, given how it was ruled by bourgeois guys...Comment
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No way. Im against all wars of any kind. I just want a competitive europe. As much as you would like it, Europe will never be one country where we all speak one language. Its a pipedream.Originally posted by Seneca
You'd rather the nations of Europe carried on killing each other?Comment
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Not as such - however, I would like to see a Europe where the concept of a war between France and Germany seems as unlikely and ridiculous as a war between Kansas and Tennessee, or between Somerset and Dorset.Originally posted by Monk
Seneca,
Are you saying there's a risk Europeans will begin fighting each other if the European Union broke down?
Besides, why would the EU break down? Surely because of the forces that would make war all the more likely - ie Nationalism.yadaComment
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Look back at my comment on the United States - that was most certainly divided by different languages and peoples (and still is) - yet that has done very well by integrating the states.Originally posted by frostycreep
No way. Im against all wars of any kind. I just want a competitive europe. As much as you would like it, Europe will never be one country where we all speak one language. Its a pipedream.Comment
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USA and EU are apples and oranges and can't be compared that way. The US was able to function as a nation-state because the original inhabitants were wiped out, meaning there weren't border issues etc.Comment
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When are you due for your Civil War?Originally posted by red_jon
Look back at my comment on the United States ... yet that has done very well by integrating the states.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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We've been doing it since 450AD - we're long overdue for a breather...yadaComment
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What do you think WW2 was?Originally posted by DinoDoc
When are you due for your Civil War?
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Re: Europeans to use EU flag as a flag icon...
No.Originally posted by Ecthelion
After drinking a te... OK... well, iI had it in only a few minutes, so there's an excuse... 6 cl, remember... anyway, it makes you start weird topics, such as this.
I've noticed some of us have used it, others haven't... everyone of us should do it (use the EU flag that is), so we can beat the other guys... but some of us still prefer to be nationalists.
Confess to the Union!
(I'll hate myself for this in 2 hours)
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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What is your problem with EU, moom?
"Socialism"? Aw, come on - that only bring forth images of nutty Americans who are finding only Internet listens to their theories about how Chinese are going to attack Los Angeles any minute (if the Mexicans can't get there first) and how Hillary Clinton is mass-murdering people with her witchcraft to help the Chinese - or of 60-year-old Englishmen who think asylum seekers are just part of the latest dastardly plot by the Hun to attack Britain and steal her colonies.
Looking from Scandinavian perspective, EU's positively capitalistic. Why, just look at the opposition. In Finland, that consists of good old Soviet bootlicker and toadeye Paavo Väyrynen, upset about his party's diminished ability to conduct agricultural policy by taxing the city and dumping the money in one giant hole in the ground, and yakking ex(?)-communist Esko Seppänen, seeing the evil NATOgoblin behind every corner, ready to set it's neo-liberal claws on what should have been the Western part of Karelo-Finnish SSR."Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
"That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the worldComment
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You have to be somewhat integrated before a Civil War can take place.Originally posted by red_jon
What do you think WW2 was?
BTW, the situations of the US and Europe are hardly comparable and I fail to see how bringing up the US furthers the pro-EU consolidation arguement.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I think there is too much division in the EU.... some countries do not like others... France and Germany... pffh... don't get me started on those two....For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Because I was making the point that just because peoples speak a different language it doesn't mean that they can't further political and economic union.Originally posted by DinoDoc
You have to be somewhat integrated before a Civil War can take place.
BTW, the situations of the US and Europe are hardly comparable and I fail to see how bringing up the US furthers the pro-EU consolidation arguement.Comment
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