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  • Originally posted by loinburger


    On the contrary, you can't seem to understand that living a good life has nothing to do with believing or failing to believe in God. God provides a carrot-and-stick moral code, which ain't moral at all--taking the moral high ground with a carrot-and-stick morality is laughable and pathetic at the very least. That's what gets me about you people: the best reason you can come up with for why I should believe is (to paraphrase) because "I'll get a spanking if I don't."



    I look nothing like Odin! For one thing, I've got two eyes, and Odin only has one.


    that is a good point, admittedly Jesus said many good things but I don't get the one about sperading the good news.

    Perhaps Christians over the time misinterpreted what the good news is. (I mean when you give such a general advice who wouldn't) or maybe it is obvious but people like to make it exclusive for themselves. So at the end you have hundreds of denominations saying - the good news it THIS and not the OTHER- and the rest are doomed because they don't follow.

    Very isolationist policy for a God who created us all, and cares for everyone (at least in long term).

    Indeed if the exists than there are some contradicting factors in our interpretation of him, in other words he is not what christians would expect him to be.
    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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    • poor Rasslin... he needs to think things out before he speaks and avoid these constant contradictions which he dont seem to realize he's making (doublethink?). He needs to learn from CyberShy or somebody...
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • cyberShy:

        350 years later there are 4.194.304 people
        700 years later: 4.398.046.511.104 hey, where are all those people ?
        Well there's war... starvation... disease... great numbers of infant deaths... and any deaths in the first few generations (when a single individual will result eventually in at least hundreds of millions of descendents) would result in substantial reductions of these numbers.


        thanks
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • Albert, that's right.
          For that reason I'm happy that the number I came up with was 4000 times larger than the current world population There's some room for disease and war starvation in there
          Formerly known as "CyberShy"
          Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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          • what about inbreeding then?
            first you got sister marrying brother, next you got cousin marrying cousin, i mean, that can't be all that good
            <Kassiopeia> you don't keep the virgins in your lair at a sodomising distance from your beasts or male prisoners. If you devirginised them yourself, though, that's another story. If they devirginised each other, then, I hope you had that webcam running.
            Play Bumps! No, wait, play Slings!

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            • Originally posted by Richelieu
              Horse : Can you turn it into wine ? Or beer ?
              Personally I think Jesus made a big tactical error in turning water into wine.

              I think if he had turned water into beer there would be many more Christians today
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • Hmmmmm..... It depends. Who is he going to close it up on this time?
                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                • About the universe being created; I read in my Popular Science mag that the universe will eventually die off, not condense and explode again, which violates physics anyway. In fact, having a universe at all violates physics. You have to say that the universe was created because things cannot just "appear."

                  So, this universe happened once and it will eventually die off. However, this has been discovered only recently. However, the Bible tells us that heaven (space) and earth will pass away, but God's word will live on forever. Forgot the verse, but I know it's in there somewhere. There are 2 ways the guys who wrote the Bible would know that. If they figured it out with their technology or if God told them. There.
                  Wrestling is real!

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                  • Originally posted by King of Rasslin
                    About the universe being created; I read in my Popular Science mag


                    I understood US Christian fundamentalism better when I read that the backbone of it was millions of fanatical Northern Irish and Scottish protestants who migrated to the United States in the 18th and 19th century.
                    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                    • CyberShy,

                      Hello, you there? Why don't you answer my question? How does Creationism explain transitional forms?

                      BTW, forget about those quotes. Invariably they turn out to be misquotes, taken out of context, or outright lies.

                      Just check out the real quote from Mark Ridley for example.

                      Stop using lies that are more than a couple of decades old, will you?
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • Originally posted by King of Rasslin
                        About the universe being created; I read in my Popular Science mag that the universe will eventually die off, not condense and explode again, which violates physics anyway. In fact, having a universe at all violates physics. You have to say that the universe was created because things cannot just "appear."
                        Does your god violate physics?
                        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                        (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                        • Here's the original quote from David Raup, Curator of Geology.

                          These Creationists. They are such a sad bunch.
                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                          • God can violate physics. After all, he created physics.
                            Wrestling is real!

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                            • Watching the sea part would make me check into a mental hospital.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                              -Bokonon

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                              • Not if thousands of other people saw it at the same time.
                                Wrestling is real!

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