New twist to pledge case. Little girl wanted to say 'under God'. Dad used her.

[Ned]

CG, Xmas! See what I mean?

[chequita guevara]

Xmas is also a secular holidary, probably more than it is a religious one. I celibrate it and I'm an atheist.

[Ned]

CG, It also is celebrated in India and Japan, and AFAIK, the whole world. However, everyone also knows that Christmas is Christ's birthday and Santa Claus is a Christian saint. To celebrate this day without acknowledging these simple facts is hypocrisy.

Christmas and its trappings are vulnerable to a Newdow attack if the Supreme’s sustain his victory against the Pledge. I don't see a court sustaining the constitutionality of Christmas based on a theory that it already is secular. It may have that "meaning" to some Americans, but not to most.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Ned
CG, It also is celebrated in India and Japan, and AFAIK, the whole world. However, everyone also knows that Christmas is Christ's birthday and Santa Claus is a Christian saint. To celebrate this day without acknowledging these simple facts is hypocrisy.

Christmas and its trappings are vulnerable to a Newdow attack if the Supreme’s sustain his victory against the Pledge. I don't see a court sustaining the constitutionality of Christmas based on a theory that it already is secular. It may have that "meaning" to some Americans, but not to most.

I can believe that the Japanese might celebrate it, but I find it difficult to believe that anyone other than the tiny Christian minority in India celebrate it. There is a sort of revival of Hinduism going on in India recently, and they seem to be rather defensive about their religion these days.

[Ned]

Dr. S, I got the point about India from an Indian friend.

I agree with you, though, that Christmas just may be under attack in India because it is a Christian holiday.